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    I'm thinking of doing a fat fast for the next 2 days to try and get my appetite under control...I have been insatiable lately and today I probably ate more than twice my usual calories....1lb of ground beef 1c tomatosauce, 6 eggs 4 tb kerrygold butter, 4 tb cream, spinach, asparagus, 2-3ozkerrygold cheese...and I'm not a big person...looking to lose last 5lbs...but I love fat...kerrygold butter, bacon and cream. I envy all those people who say they aren't hungry forget to eat etc...I am always thinking about my next meal or trying to hold off but once I start eating i am ravenous...I did a fat fast once a while ago and remember feeling freed from this raging appetite...can anyone share their experience...do you think this will help me get my appetite under control....?

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    It might help. Give it a try. I once planned a fat fast for a couple of days while traveling. I ended up eating macadamia nuts when I couldn't get real food and lost a few pounds before I got home.

    When I do a fat fast I eat only foods that bring my fat percent over 90% on any given day. It isn't really a fat fast if you're eating protein foods and dipping down to 75%. Record and calculate everything.

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    • #3
      Funny you should mention travelling...I'm leaving thurs night to visit my sister for the holiday weekend...so i figured a fat fast today and tomorrow would simplify food prep for the plane...it will be hard to overeat at her house as she keeps no junk and has nothing but legumes rice and tea in her pantry lol

      My meal plan for the ff is 7tb of kerrygold butter...4tb gf heavy cream split over 2 coffees and 3 hb eggs for "dinner"...95% fat...5% protein...2 days of this then protein fat and veggies on 3 meal per day while on her schedule...then back to FF for monday's plane ride home...then I'll evaluate the results...might need to really focus on doing keto as i really need to get this every 3 day overeatingfest under control

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      • #4
        My wife did it for 5 days just to see if she could drop weight. 1200 kCal / day, split into 4 to 5 "meals". I cannot call those meals, because it truly sucks to eat > 80% fat at each of these mini-meals. She dropped 7 lbs in 5 days. She regained most of them when she came back to normal meals, even at 2 or 1 meal / day. I think it was mostly a water weight fluctuation ...

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        • #5
          If you do not satiate on fat, fat fast will not help. I tried fat fast on macadamia nuts and coconut oil (essentially pure fat) and by 2-3 pm I was driven crazy and ran for proteins.

          On the other hand, when I added fiber back in form of avocados (1 avocado a day), sweet potatoes and bulk vegetables and started to take glucomannan, my appetite went down to a manageable level. My satiation mechanism relies on proteins and fiber, rather than on fat. Sure, I need more than 10% fat (more like 30-50%), but the VLC is not satiating for me.

          My appetite also goes up when I eat sugars and fructose, including any dairy products, which you seem to be eating a whole lot of.

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          • #6
            My experience on fat fasts has been that it knocks my SUGAR CRAVINGS down to zero. I don't recall much affect on general appetite(quantity), though. I usually have liverwurst, cream cheese, macadamias, pork rinds with sour cream, egg salad.

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            • #7
              Meal 1 was 2tb cream in my coffee and 1tb butter...4hrs later repeated that meal and feel totally sated...dont know if it is because i overate yesterday or because this works for me...

              I do know that resisting carbs is not a problem for me, but overeating protein and fat is...the kerrygold can call to me from the fridge so I figured if I ate 7tb a day either i would feel great or get repulsed by it and then maybe able to resist it in future...i once od' on coconut oil and now even the sight of the jar in the supermarket makes me queasy.

              Thinking my overeating of protein led to too much glucose via glucogenesis leading to my insatiable hunger...thinking long term I might do best on a 75/20/5 ratio...is that sustainable??

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Leida View Post
                If you do not satiate on fat, fat fast will not help. I tried fat fast on macadamia nuts and coconut oil (essentially pure fat) and by 2-3 pm I was driven crazy and ran for proteins.
                The Atkins protocol for the fat fast is to consume 1000 calories a day of 90% or more fat. I personally would not start a fat fast unless I was sure I had been eating plenty of protein in the previous few days. I doubt I could go more than 3 days on an essentially protein-free diet without a meat binge.

                As far as "satiate", it means different things to different people. Consuming an excess of calories as fat would no doubt be bad for weight loss.

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                • #9
                  Remember that fat has a different digestion pathway than proteins and carbs so its satiating effect is delayed. Protein is the most immediately satiating macro as far as I know.

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                  • #10
                    I'm like Leida; I don't find fat to be very satiating at all. I also don't experience any appetite suppression in ketosis. This is why the whole LCHF thing doesn't work well for me. I've tried the fat fast multiple times. For a while I was doing it two days a week to help me get into ketosis fast after a weekend of carb refeed. It did nothing for me except make me lose water weight, feel miserable, and binge after the fast is over.

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                    • #11
                      The Atkins protocol for the fat fast is to consume 1000 calories a day of 90% or more fat. I personally would not start a fat fast unless I was sure I had been eating plenty of protein in the previous few days. I doubt I could go more than 3 days on an essentially protein-free diet without a meat binge.
                      That's the one I was trying, after hearing people go on and on how they were totally not hungry on 1000 cals a day of fat. So, I ate my 600 cals of fat by 2-3 pm, and started chewing my desk, unable to concentrate at work. Happened every time I tried (I tried 3 or 4 times). I tried with only coconut oil, 1 tbsp at a time, I tried with macadamia nuts and black coffee, chewing each nut for eternity. I surely don't get magically full because I ate a tablespoon of coconut oil, like all the good folk who goes: "OMG, I had coffee with cream, and I couldn't look at supper!"
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                      • #12
                        It's essentially a mono diet. I recall being hungry. But it was inconvenient to eat, and I knew I'd only be doing it for a few days max.

                        I think monodiets are supposed to bore you into not eating.

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                        • #13
                          In his book, Dr. Atkins suggests that the fat fast only be used as a TEMPORARY measure. So, three days sounds good. I usually do 2, and the longest I have ever made it was 5. My reasons for doing it have been to break a plateau, or to reduce my cravings after some extended 'bad' eating.

                          The USDA guidelines for protein put the minimum for adult women(which I think most of us on this thread are) at 46g daily. If you did 100K of protein, 900K fat, that would be 25g of protein. Half the minimum, but for a few days, not outrageous. I agree, that having good protein before (and after) would be ideal.

                          On that note, I think doing a fat fast coming from a low carb and/or primal food plan, is much easier than trying to do it from SAD. I would never try that- seems like it would be setting yourself up for some hard, if not to say downright nasty, days.

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                          • #14
                            Day 1of my FF has been amazing...I have no hunger, completely forget about food and am not obsessing about when I'm going to eat...what freedom! I also am an energizer bunny! Now I understand when people say they forget to eat or realize all of a sudden it is dinner, etc...I is 6:40 pm and I have only had 600 calories...and I'm totally not hungry...usually I'm diving for the fridge the moment I get home around 4...

                            I've been busy packing and will eat those 400 calories before bed so I dont set myself up for a bad day tomorrow, but this feeling is amazing!!! My FF is only for 2 days...today and tomorrow while I'm travelling (plane ride)...so as long as I make it through all the temptations at the airport, I should be good...then 3 days of just protein fat and veggies and then FF for the return flight day...after that will gradually increase protein, veggies and decrease fat so my ratios are more like 70/25/5...clearly carbs even those from just veggies stimulate my appetite...

                            hope tomorrow goes as well...

                            and I still love kerrygold butter

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by aprimalmomma View Post
                              ...thinking long term I might do best on a 75/20/5 ratio...is that sustainable?
                              That's exactly what I eat and have done for quite a long time. Yes, it is very sustainable.

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