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    I eat dinner usually between 5-7 and sleep at around 10-11. After I eat I feel all energetic, normal, like a mini adrenaline surges through me. This lasts for a few hours... so for example I'd eat at 5, by 8 I'd just slump, feel tired, irritable and HUNGRY again. I hate it, it ruins my evenings. It's like a feeling of slight disorientation, like a crash. I let it pass and go to sleep. These meals are usually moderate protein, 10-15g of carbs from vegetables and some fat. A typical Primal meal, so I'm sure I don't get an insulin spike.

    The worst feeling is the mornings, I struggle to get out of bed (as soon as I get up I get this dizzy, shaky reaction) and the shitty feeling continues until I eat breakfast or some carbs. It literally feels like I'm gorging on pasta and bread with the huge insulin spikes I use to experience. I don't consume any fruits or sugar, some sweeteners and dairy. These daily episodes make me feel like I'm on a constant mood and energy swing, which I thought Primal eliminated the energy crashes, hunger and provided 'long lasting' energy.

    Are my blood sugars too low? Reactive hypoglycaemia? I'm not a diabetic or overweight. I use to experience this pre-LC and thought limiting carbohydrates would eliminate this. I'm tired of constantly trying finding new strategies to tweak my diet, I just wanna eat, enjoy my food and feel normal. I don't want my days to revolve around my meals or for me to feel constantly consumed by food, I've suffered with that too much on low fat, high carb.

    To shake off the crash I sometimes go for an evening sprint before I sleep, and, surprisingly, my energy levels get back to normal and the disorientation magically disappears, it feels like a breeze. Sometimes this is just inconvenient and I wanna relax after a meal!

    Any one else experience anything similar?
    Last edited by Mikee5; 05-18-2013, 01:14 PM.

  • #2
    You're not eating enough at dinner. If you are energetic after you eat, it wasn't enough and your body is saying, "Hey, get up and get some more food." Then you crash. You want to feel a little bit lazy after dinner. And adding more carbs will help with feeling full and getting a good night's sleep. Many people are finding now that low carb is not the magic bullet it was thought to be.
    You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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    • #3
      Eat more?
      Low-carb is definitely the magic bullet I've always known it to be. Ignore the sugar fiends, I apologize for their presence on behalf of MDA.
      Crohn's, doing SCD

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      • #4
        Sounds like hypoglycemia to me. Try a more balanced meal. Small portion of meat, a little bit of fat and a decent portion of starch, maybe some fruit for dessert.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
          Eat more?
          Low-carb is definitely the magic bullet I've always known it to be. Ignore the sugar fiends, I apologize for their presence on behalf of MDA.
          You are a grown man with a MLP avatar. Just sit by yourself and think about that for a while.
          You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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          • #6
            If you are concerned about what is going on with your blood sugar at certain times, you should get yourself a glucose meter and run some tests to find out what it happening. Nobody could even guess what is going on without that information.

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            • #7
              paste what you ate yesterday- everything, food and amount. no 'moderate',' some' no 'carbs from vegetables', 'fat' or 'protein'
              what did you eat?
              When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
              27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
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              • #8
                sounds like low salt. Drink some dissolved sea salt in water and see if that doesn't boost things up pretty quick.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CarbDodger View Post
                  paste what you ate yesterday- everything, food and amount. no 'moderate',' some' no 'carbs from vegetables', 'fat' or 'protein'
                  what did you eat?
                  This is what I ate today:

                  Woke up feeling terrible, fatigued, tired, dizzy and extremely disorientated even after a 10 hour sleep. Had some water and took my supplements and went out. The feeling continued until I started moving around more but still foggy.

                  Lunch around 1 pm: 4 egg omelette and cheese and cream, cooked with butter & oil with some broccoli and a cucumber with some sugar free jelly. Felt fine after this.

                  Dinner 6 pm: Grilled chicken breasts with green beans and broccoli. After this I felt fine as well, until about 7 and I felt terrible and disorientated. I get dizzy when I stand up and I can't even form sentences, it's almost like I'm hallucinating, no joke. So I just end up on the couch, contemplating and debating with myself what is causing this, food is consuming me again. I can't escape. I'm hungry again and I ate the leftover chicken. My day revolved around my meals and planning them.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by richard View Post
                    sounds like low salt. Drink some dissolved sea salt in water and see if that doesn't boost things up pretty quick.
                    I add a lot of salt to my foods and I've tried this method a few times, but sometimes my body seems to reject it and I rush to the toilet.

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                    • #11
                      Hmm I dont know any thing about you but for me that would not be enough food. I work hard and though I dont work out persay I do a hard physical job. I dont see enough protein, veggies or fats for an adult active male. Are you trying to loose weight or be an active young male?

                      I start with 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight per day mostly at breakfast and lunch. Each meal includes as well a 2 handfull measure of veggies and whatever fats I cooked it all in. For me at 250 lbs that is 250 grams of protein which at 7 grams per ounce means 35 ish ounces of animal product and eggs.

                      If I dont eat enough, for instance if I ate what you eat per day, I would feel just as shitty considering my daily workload. If I was sitting in an office all day things would be different.

                      What sort of daily calorie count are you aiming for?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mikee5 View Post
                        This is what I ate today:

                        Woke up feeling terrible, fatigued, tired, dizzy and extremely disorientated even after a 10 hour sleep. Had some water and took my supplements and went out. The feeling continued until I started moving around more but still foggy.

                        Lunch around 1 pm: 4 egg omelette and cheese and cream, cooked with butter & oil with some broccoli and a cucumber with some sugar free jelly. Felt fine after this.

                        Dinner 6 pm: Grilled chicken breasts with green beans and broccoli. After this I felt fine as well, until about 7 and I felt terrible and disorientated. I get dizzy when I stand up and I can't even form sentences, it's almost like I'm hallucinating, no joke. So I just end up on the couch, contemplating and debating with myself what is causing this, food is consuming me again. I can't escape. I'm hungry again and I ate the leftover chicken. My day revolved around my meals and planning them.
                        Eat more food. Looks like you need another meal's worth of food in your day. Your body is trying to tell you it is hungry, feed it.

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                        • #13
                          Why are people talking about magic bullets? Bullets are meant to kill people and hit things off rocks...

                          Anyway. Mikee, why are you still eating low carb? On your last thread there was an overwhelming majority telling you to eat more carbs / in general.

                          When I went low carb my energy crashes became hypoglycaemic crashes. When these got really bad, it triggered binging. Seriously, just eat balanced macros of unprocessed food. It has the margin of least possible error...

                          Originally posted by Mikee5 View Post
                          I add a lot of salt to my foods and I've tried this method a few times, but sometimes my body seems to reject it and I rush to the toilet.
                          It's not that your body is rejecting it: the salt acting as a laxative by encouraging water into your colon.
                          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                          - Ray Peat

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                          • #14
                            Stop thinking about it, fill your fridge with good primal food and just eat when you're hungry, don't count or restrict, eat what your body tells you to from the primal range, do that for a good month without any questions.
                            Last edited by Omni; 05-18-2013, 04:19 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mikee5 View Post
                              This is what I ate today:

                              Woke up feeling terrible, fatigued, tired, dizzy and extremely disorientated even after a 10 hour sleep. Had some water and took my supplements and went out. The feeling continued until I started moving around more but still foggy.

                              Lunch around 1 pm: 4 egg omelette and cheese and cream, cooked with butter & oil with some broccoli and a cucumber with some sugar free jelly. Felt fine after this.

                              Dinner 6 pm: Grilled chicken breasts with green beans and broccoli. After this I felt fine as well, until about 7 and I felt terrible and disorientated. I get dizzy when I stand up and I can't even form sentences, it's almost like I'm hallucinating, no joke. So I just end up on the couch, contemplating and debating with myself what is causing this, food is consuming me again. I can't escape. I'm hungry again and I ate the leftover chicken. My day revolved around my meals and planning them.
                              Based on my calculations it looks like you are getting about 1200 calories out of that day's food intake. Not sure how much you weigh or what kind of physical activity you are doing, but it certainly looks like you are not getting enough food. Also like several others have said make sure you add in some additional carbs (white rice, yams, sweet and white potatos)
                              Last edited by canuck416; 05-18-2013, 05:58 PM.
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