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    I have really enjoyed PaleoBird's thread on carnivorousness. What was interesting to me is her eating pattern. I eat three meals/day, as habit only. Large meat and eggs at about 9:00 am, then usually some chicken or pork thingy with a few carbs at noon, then a light supper small portion meat AND sometimes/not a veggie for supper at 6: then nothing after. I have no idea why I do this. I am never hungry in between meals, and don't snack.

    My wife eats CRON, and has for years, and she is truly a BIRD sized woman. In fact I call her "mon petit oiseau". ANYWAY: she says I eat too much. I am wondering, are my lifetime habits causing me to eat too much? What would my my life be like on say, a grazing all day diet? would I over eat? What if I ate only once a day? Would I overeat? Obviously I am over thinking. NOT WHAT TO EAT BUT HOW TO EAT

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    It's hard to overeat on one meal a day, which is my eating habit (around 6pm). Sometimes I skip a meal, sometimes I eat two (weekend, for social convenience). I don't overeat I think but it varies and that's how I feel best.

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    • #3
      I've actually just written an article about meal frequency and the scientific rationale behind why one meal a day is probably ideal. You can find it here. It's fairly long, otherwise I would have just included it inline in this post.

      -PK
      My blog : cogitoergoedo.com

      Interested in Intermittent Fasting? This might help: part 1, part 2, part 3.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pklopp View Post
        I've actually just written an article about meal frequency and the scientific rationale behind why one meal a day is probably ideal. You can find it here. It's fairly long, otherwise I would have just included it inline in this post.

        -PK
        Thanks..printing it now
        Mike

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        • #5
          Originally posted by dkJames View Post
          It's hard to overeat on one meal a day, which is my eating habit (around 6pm). Sometimes I skip a meal, sometimes I eat two (weekend, for social convenience). I don't overeat I think but it varies and that's how I feel best.
          Did you just DECIDE to do that? What made you change the way you WERE eating?

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          • #6
            I definitely eat less when I eat less frequently. As long as the meal is nourishing/nontoxic/slow-digesting I have no stress until the next one. No rigid planning though. On a given day I have an equal chance of either:
            (a) red meat/tuber/veg/fruit/chocolate dinner
            (b) salad lunch + smaller soup/eggs/rice/fish type dinner

            The first time I tried (a) I expected grotesque gorging but honestly can't do it. 1 steak and 1 potato are such natural unit sizes, eating more feels weird. I assume my body knows how to allocate everything and cope for 23 hours.
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            • #7
              Experiment with listening to your body and feeding it when its actually hungry. You don't experience hunger because you don't wait long enough between feedings. And I say 'feedings' instead of meals, because you're eating to CW meal times, not your body's timetable.

              Skip a meal. Do not snack. Get hungry. Feel what real hunger feels like. Then feed that hunger. You might eat more in a sitting, but probably less than if you ate 3 meals a day on autopilot.

              Then again, if your current way of eating is giving you the results you desire, why change a thing?
              Sandra
              *My obligatory intro

              There are no cheat days. There are days when you eat primal and days you don't. As soon as you label a day a cheat day, you're on a diet. Don't be on a diet. ~~ Fernaldo

              DAINTY CAN KISS MY PRIMAL BACKSIDE. ~~ Crabcakes

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              • #8
                I agree with the the others: why not try it?

                Personally, 3 meals a day suits me best. I have no interest in eating throughout the day. Eating a meal in the morning satisfies me till lunch, then I eat again, then I eat again for dinner, when my appetite has returned. I skip meals every now and then due to schedule (too busy or forgot) or lack of appetite. Sometimes I eat a little extra in the evening, but not as much as I would to completely make up for the missed meal.
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                • #9
                  Unless you are overweight, why would your wife think you are eating too much? Because you eat more than she does?

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                  • #10
                    I do find all of this very interesting. I have never been one who can eat a lot at one sitting. I just can't. A couple bites and I'm usually stuffed. I graze... No weight problems either... I would like to work down to 3 meals a day though. Right now with all my grazing I probably eat 6 times a day??? I feel like maybe there are other health benefits to not grazing (like a better immune system response).

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                    • #11
                      I'd just like to endorse pklopp's writing. I eat one meal a day because it's the only sustainable form of calorie restriction I've ever encountered. If I ever eat food before 4:00 PM, it literally ruins my day. I know it's silly to think of it in black and white terms like that, but past experience dictates that this is true for me.

                      I normally follow leangains, so on training days (3-4x/week) I eat a 2,200-2,300 calorie meal at roughly 7:00 PM and on rest days I eat a 1,700 calorie meal at that same time. I don't count calories anymore, but I'm an excellent guesser based on years of counting calories. I do still weigh my foods though.
                      I'm a weak man...If I give myself a few feet of leeway, I burst through all of my prohibitions.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mikegee2 View Post
                        Did you just DECIDE to do that? What made you change the way you WERE eating?
                        No, it came gradually while I was on a VLC diet for weight loss for about 7 months. once I reached my weight goal, I loosened up but the meal schedule had alreaedy been changed to one meal a day. I then read pklopp's articles about intermittent fasting (3 part article, a very good read), and it made complete sense considering my own shift of eating habit over something like 3 months (skipped lunch, then reaplced breakfast by bulletproof coffee then ditched the morning fat altogether). I feel no hunger at all during the day, even now that my carb intake is slightly increased to ~ 100g / day. I also do a 2 days fast once in a while, which is very easy when you are adapted to one meal a day. But it takes time to reprogram yourself.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mikegee2 View Post
                          I have really enjoyed PaleoBird's thread on carnivorousness. What was interesting to me is her eating pattern. I eat three meals/day, as habit only. Large meat and eggs at about 9:00 am, then usually some chicken or pork thingy with a few carbs at noon, then a light supper small portion meat AND sometimes/not a veggie for supper at 6: then nothing after. I have no idea why I do this. I am never hungry in between meals, and don't snack.

                          My wife eats CRON, and has for years, and she is truly a BIRD sized woman. In fact I call her "mon petit oiseau". ANYWAY: she says I eat too much. I am wondering, are my lifetime habits causing me to eat too much? What would my my life be like on say, a grazing all day diet? would I over eat? What if I ate only once a day? Would I overeat? Obviously I am over thinking. NOT WHAT TO EAT BUT HOW TO EAT
                          I think this is the most under emphasized question (how do I eat?) in the whole primal living movement. When somebody first comes across the Primal blueprint it usually happens thus:

                          *Ok so I gotta eat what grok ate?: cut out grains and seed oils, limit dairy and avoid legumes, OK got it.
                          *Move like grok you say aswell?: plenty of low intensity movement, some heavy lifting and an occasional sprint, too easy.
                          *So you say grok got plenty of sleep, sun and play also, well that's not so hard.
                          *"woohoo Im fully primal" they might say

                          So a few months later they're back on the forums, because they've hit a stall or some other problem and everybody is telling them "up your daily carbs a little", "restrict your cals a bit more, CICO rules ok", "macros at 50/20/30 for you" "you aren't lifting heavy enough", "hows your sleep", I could go on.

                          Most are missing a very important factor of TPB, one just as important as what to eat....

                          HOW DO I EAT? and more importantly, HOW DID GROK EAT? I found great success (lost 60 pounds in 4 months) by asking myself those few additional questions at the start of my primal journey (check out the post in my sig for more on this).

                          well done mikegee2 for contemplating those same questions.
                          A little primal gem - My Success Story
                          Weight lost in 4 months - 29kg (64 lbs)

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                          • #14
                            Really interesting thread.

                            I think my single biggest factor to my weight and fat loss was something so simple as dropping breakfast. I haven't had breakfast for nearly 18 months and I don't miss it.

                            I think it is all about finding a routine which works for you.

                            My current structure is a 7-8 hour eating window (which is really just lunch and dinner) and 2 x 24 hr fasts a week.

                            I am considering doing the one meal thing but I work at a desk and I enjoy my big ass salads too much I think but I may trial it at some stage.
                            2010 - 5,11 and 101KG

                            2012 - 5,11 and 77KG

                            Train hard, eat well and love life

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AdamC29 View Post
                              I am considering doing the one meal thing but I work at a desk and I enjoy my big ass salads too much I think but I may trial it at some stage.
                              Maybe try it 1~3 days a week? I dislike military discipline but knowing I have the ability to comfortably adjust to any schedule is an important positive signifier IMO.
                              37//6'3"/185

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