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  • What Supplements Do You Take for Depression/Anxiety/Mood Problems & Why?

    So I am desperately trying to get my lifelong moderately severe depression & a bit of anxiety under control. I was really hoping being primal would help & it has helped with some of the mood swings. I have been primal for about 2 months & in addition to losing fat & bloat feel pretty good about that. I've also taken up yoga, which helps me to meditate but after I'm off my mat I still feel bad.

    I have a terrible inner critic telling me I'll never be good enough, racing negative thoughts, bad mood, not hopeful. I also have an inability to feel appropriate emotions, rather good or bad, an apathy. Sometimes it's impossible to get myself out of bed; I stare/think about all the tasks that need to be done but can't bring myself to do them. I have trouble concentrating. I have a wicked temper & can be irritable. I put on a tough front but I am overly sensitive to some things like loss/rejection & blame myself endlessly when they happen even if they are completely out of my control/not my fault. I tend to cry when I get mad/sad. Lately when I go out with my friends I just want to crawl back into my bed & quit pretending that I am enjoying this. I isolate myself a lot, push away my loved ones, block out the world & feel incredibly lonely.

    God, I sound awful but I am actually quite high-functioning; I just landed a great research assistant job, have an excellent GPA in my epidemiology masters program, friends that love/adore me, etc. After a terrible situation with a guy sent me spiraling downward a psychiatrist prescribed a low dose of Wellbutrin which I currently am on. I really dislike the idea of antidepressants for me personally; it's a mental hang-up about me feeling weak. I also take fish oil caplets & a multivitamin. Also I have just began cognitive behavioral therapy.

    I would greatly appreciate any insight from people who have experimented with supplements of any kind. Thank you!
    Aren't we all just works in progress?

    Using primal as a tool to heal depression/anxiety & promote overall well-being:
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread84615.html

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    Where did this inner voice come from? When did you first start hearing it? Was there a first time? Did someone in your childhood treat you this way?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
      Where did this inner voice come from? When did you first start hearing it? Was there a first time? Did someone in your childhood treat you this way?
      It's always been there since I can remember, even in play as a small child.
      Aren't we all just works in progress?

      Using primal as a tool to heal depression/anxiety & promote overall well-being:
      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread84615.html

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      • #4
        For me, prevention means good diet, physical activity, fish oil, and vitamin D which is all stuff vital for good health anyway. When I'm in distress (anxiety, low mood, etc.) long walks and cheerful music are applied. For extreme anxiety, ONE drink can be helpful, but I'm sure many would disagree and your mileage may vary.

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        • #5
          Hey fire tiger, Ugh, I hear you and feel your pain. Eating clean definitely helps me, but I think the problem is deeper than that.

          Have you ever had a full hormone profile done?
          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

          - Ray Peat

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          • #6
            Piracetam, choline, nicotine, caffeine, and aspirin
            Make America Great Again

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            • #7
              Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
              Hey fire tiger, Ugh, I hear you and feel your pain. Eating clean definitely helps me, but I think the problem is deeper than that.

              Have you ever had a full hormone profile done?
              Yeah, I knew it would be no magic fix but I really actually want to beat this. I am trying to explore all the different options. The yoga has been great and I think the therapy will be helpful but I'm not sure those alone will be enough. I would like a blood work-up including hormones & vitamin D. I can see if my doctor would do it but I kind of doubt it since my insurance might not want to cover it.
              Aren't we all just works in progress?

              Using primal as a tool to heal depression/anxiety & promote overall well-being:
              http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread84615.html

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              • #8
                Hi Tiger, this is my first. I didn't realize the forum was this cool.

                I've had many of the experiences that you listed above and will experience them as life continues.

                I've had many "cures" for anxiety, depression and things to just feel on top of the world. The first herb that I recommend is Rhodiola Rosea. It's incredible for energy, stress reduction and endurance. It's one of the best herbs for well-being.

                Secondly, gotu kola is amazing for depression. It's another herb that makes you feel so happy you just can't help but smile. There is a blend of herbs that I take called "Joy" by Organic India. It has a combination of a few other herbs.

                Another great thing for anxiety is passionflower. I actually did a podcast interview with Clinical Nutritionist Beverly Meyer and she uses passionflower to treat her clients when they are stressed or anxious. I think it's one of the best treatments for nervousness, general anxiety etc.

                Another one that's a little bit heavier duty is Phenibut. It's in a category of supplements called nootropics. It's actually a prescription anxiety reliever in Europe but over the counter in the United States. This is the only thing listed that has a potential for addiction (mostly because it works so good). The dosage is around 300mg for most people. You need to do research on this if your anxiety is THAT strong that you need or think you need this. I would only recommend taking it once a week max.

                If you do research on Phenibut you'll find yourself on random websites discussing social anxiety and how it helps with that.

                The herbs listed do not have to be cycled or weaned on or off of. Most of them, especially Rhodiola and Gotu Kola will be noticed the first time you take it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by firetiger View Post
                  Yeah, I knew it would be no magic fix but I really actually want to beat this. I am trying to explore all the different options. The yoga has been great and I think the therapy will be helpful but I'm not sure those alone will be enough. I would like a blood work-up including hormones & vitamin D. I can see if my doctor would do it but I kind of doubt it since my insurance might not want to cover it.
                  I suffered from depression from a very, very young age too, and I probably have a similar background in that I tried everything: yoga, mediation, therapy, diet. Everything except SSRIs! But I've come to the conclusion that when depression goes that far back, there's something more going on than talking or exercise can alleviate. I don't think depression is a sign of a healthy individual (sorry if that sounds harsh). After a lifetime of symptoms, I finally got a full hormone panel done (age 31), and found out that my hormones are totally out of whack. It can cause all kinds of issues, and if you're a sensitive person it will effect you mentally as well as physically.

                  I would 100% recommend getting a hormone panel done. It might be a bit pricey, but seriously: you could go to a billion doctors and not find the answers you're looking for. THe blood doesn't lie. At least you'll know then if there is some physical malfunction that's causing you to feel this way (it could have began at a young age - mine did). Yoga, open communication, positive thinking, healthy eating, exercise are essential, but at the same time, supplemental imo.
                  "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                  In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                  - Ray Peat

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                  • #10
                    I don't have depression but I do have anxiety and ADHD which are symptoms of my Asperger's Syndrome.

                    I used to take Zoloft and Ritalin for them but have since dropped all meds. This happened when I was 18 and I'm 27 now, so med free for 9 years.

                    My recent switch to primal eating and going VLC immediately cleared up my brain fog and made me more receptive in social situations. I noticed this almost right away. I am also less jumpy and prone to being anxious all the time. I mean I stillhave more improvements I could make, primal wasn't a magical "cure" for my Asperger's. You can't ever really cure that. But I can say that it has made things worlds better for me.
                    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                    • #11
                      My recommendation is to read the Mood Cure or Diet Cure by Julia Ross. She recommends Amino Acid therapy for many of the symptoms that you describe.
                      Primal since 9/24/2010
                      "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                      • #12
                        Interesting information, here. I, too, suffer from depression and anxiety. I've taken SSRI's, but didn't like the side effects. Primal helps, but doesn't cure it. Recently I've tried L-Theanine for anxiety because of all the great reviews...I'm not finding that it helps all that much. Maybe takes the edge off a little bit. I am going to look into the herbs mentioned above...thanks for the info, NotJustPaleo. You're not alone firetiger.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by healthy11 View Post
                          Interesting information, here. I, too, suffer from depression and anxiety. I've taken SSRI's, but didn't like the side effects. Primal helps, but doesn't cure it. Recently I've tried L-Theanine for anxiety because of all the great reviews...I'm not finding that it helps all that much. Maybe takes the edge off a little bit. I am going to look into the herbs mentioned above...thanks for the info, NotJustPaleo. You're not alone firetiger.
                          It's funny, I drink a LOT of tea these days which you would think the caffeine would be not so good for anxiety and hyperactivity and the like. However, I think, owing to the theanine in the tea, I am a lot more mellow these days. I haven't tried supplementing with it, though maybe I should.

                          As I mentioned in my thread "Primal guide to tea," however, it could be that I am taking the time to properly make and relax with a cup of tea that is producing my "mellowing out" as much as the the anime in the tea itself.
                          "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                            I would 100% recommend getting a hormone panel done. It might be a bit pricey, but seriously: you could go to a billion doctors and not find the answers you're looking for. THe blood doesn't lie. At least you'll know then if there is some physical malfunction that's causing you to feel this way (it could have began at a young age - mine did). Yoga, open communication, positive thinking, healthy eating, exercise are essential, but at the same time, supplemental imo.
                            I can try and see if she will do the tests. I have been on birth control since I was 16 (for irregular cycle) so it's hard to tell how my cycle is naturally. The reason I seriously want to get better this time is because I lived in Perú for 2 years (Peace Corps) & I was able to actually experience contentment. I felt connected to the world rather than just going through the motions as I am now. That feeling went away about 6 months after I returned stateside and began my masters program.

                            I'm stressing out right now because I see my psychiatrist tomorrow & I know he's going to want to raise the Wellbutrin dose as I responded at first but since have responded to the medication less and less. It just seems like a temporary fix for a permanent problem rather than a solution. I've been on SSRIs before and responded to them but they didn't "fix" the problem either. I won't go back to SSRIs as that time period directly correlates with a large amount of weight gain.
                            Aren't we all just works in progress?

                            Using primal as a tool to heal depression/anxiety & promote overall well-being:
                            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread84615.html

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                            • #15
                              Your post could have been written by me. I feel for you but it sounds as though you have hope and are wiling to change things for yourself. The best thing you could take right now is a daily dose of Hope and Patience, depression, anxiety and mood swings are so entrenched that healthy eating and a few rounds of CBT aren't going to help. However, daily and regular application of these things will help you.

                              For me, long term therapy/analysis was what changed my mindset and allowed me to function again in the world after crippling depression in my teens and early twenties. I had childhood depression and trauma and have had every type of depression since then. I require at present SSRI drugs, I'd like to come off them at some stage but I'm too fragile and now is not the time. I don't seem to suffer side-effects and see them as enough to get me through another rough patch.

                              Be careful with herbs and supplements, that can be very strong, particularly herbs. I strongly advice not to self-medicate with them without guidance from a naturopath, and don't mix with other medication without guidance either.

                              The birth control pill was a huge contributor to depression for me, could you come off and watch your cycle for a while? My hormones play an extensive role in my mood. Once you have had your hormones tested, you could take naturopathic herbs to help regulate your cycle, it could make a huge difference to your mood.

                              I hope all these responses help you, but you seem to be on the right path, so well done for doing that.

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