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    The good news: I finally feel ready to kick sugar. I've loved it my whole life and been a borderline addict for around 2 years now (including binging behavior). For the first time EVER, I've stopped craving it.

    The bad news: Instead of my body wanting sugar, it wants fats -- not only the staples like eggs and steak, but the calorie-dense ones like cream and macadamias. Any time I cut out the cream or macadamias (I'm good about avoiding other nuts -- haven't had any in months) I don't feel satisfied and the sugar cravings return.

    I see this as both a huge step and a puzzling dilemma. I'm good about counting out servings so that my calories (and macros) still stay in a good spot -- I'll have a few tablespoons of cream or a precisely measured number of macs. But people on the forums seem to bash anything that's not grass fed steak (there are arguments about PUFAs in chicken and pork, carbs in sweet potatoes, trace milk solids in butter... high-fat versus moderate-carb... etc) and I don't want to be fooling myself by thinking I'm being primal if I'm not.

  • #2
    Originally posted by ForgotMyOldUsername View Post
    The good news: I finally feel ready to kick sugar. I've loved it my whole life and been a borderline addict for around 2 years now (including binging behavior). For the first time EVER, I've stopped craving it.

    The bad news: Instead of my body wanting sugar, it wants fats -- not only the staples like eggs and steak, but the calorie-dense ones like cream and macadamias. Any time I cut out the cream or macadamias (I'm good about avoiding other nuts -- haven't had any in months) I don't feel satisfied and the sugar cravings return.

    I see this as both a huge step and a puzzling dilemma. I'm good about counting out servings so that my calories (and macros) still stay in a good spot -- I'll have a few tablespoons of cream or a precisely measured number of macs. But people on the forums seem to bash anything that's not grass fed steak (there are arguments about PUFAs in chicken and pork, carbs in sweet potatoes, trace milk solids in butter... high-fat versus moderate-carb... etc) and I don't want to be fooling myself by thinking I'm being primal if I'm not.
    Not sure I understand. If it's just a craving thing, and the foods are Primal approved... buddy, go for it. I consider myself Primal and get most of my fats from chocolate (seriously) with at least 100g a day, depending on the size(s) of the bar.

    IMHO Primal is subjective to opinion and preference. Some do better (ie, enjoy themselves and thrive off) fattier meats and less carbs, others enjoy tons of carbs and little/leaner meat, while people such as you and I enjoy things like chocolate or nuts. There is no perfect Primal way of eating. Just do what you enjoy and let others do the same.
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    • #3
      that's why you ignore 95% of the diet advice on the forum, eat your nuts and cream and be happy
      beautiful
      yeah you are

      Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by AngryKiwi47 View Post
        Not sure I understand. If it's just a craving thing, and the foods are Primal approved... buddy, go for it. I consider myself Primal and get most of my fats from chocolate (seriously) with at least 100g a day, depending on the size(s) of the bar.

        IMHO Primal is subjective to opinion and preference. Some do better (ie, enjoy themselves and thrive off) fattier meats and less carbs, others enjoy tons of carbs and little/leaner meat, while people such as you and I enjoy things like chocolate or nuts. There is no perfect Primal way of eating. Just do what you enjoy and let others do the same.
        I tend to agree with you. A lot of people are drawn to primal eating because they love things like steak, bacon... those are things they restricted on their CW diets and when they hear those things are healthy, they're as happy as can be. I wasn't like that.

        Don't get me wrong -- I enjoy steak and bacon. But I haven't had either in about a month, and I'm not longing for them. I'm like you -- a few tablespoons of macadamia butter in the morning will keep me satisfied for hours, moreso than a dozen eggs. I enjoy nuts, I enjoy cream... so I'll eat them. There's no magic here -- it's all food. Eat what you like, keep a handle on what quantity makes sense, and you're all set.

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        • #5
          IMO cream and macadamias are way better than sugar. Enjoy them. I've found for me that I've gradually eased back on some of those foods because I just don't need as many as I did when I first started.

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          • #6
            It's just difficult to keep my head straight when seemingly EVERYTHING is problematic. They say cut the carbs... not a lot of starch, not a ton of fruit... careful with nuts... consider cutting the dairy... that leaves very little to play around with when I'm not in the mood for meat.

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            • #7
              stop reading the forum for diet advice

              seriously

              close your eyes and walk away
              beautiful
              yeah you are

              Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
              lol

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PrimalStudent View Post
                There's no magic here -- it's all food. Eat what you like, keep a handle on what quantity makes sense, and you're all set.
                Great advice
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ForgotMyOldUsername View Post
                  It's just difficult to keep my head straight when seemingly EVERYTHING is problematic. They say cut the carbs... not a lot of starch, not a ton of fruit... careful with nuts... consider cutting the dairy... that leaves very little to play around with when I'm not in the mood for meat.
                  go to archevore.com and read the recommendations. Follow them and be done

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                  • #10
                    Nuts got me through my sugar withdrawals. I gave myself a full month where, anytime I craved sweets, I let myself gorge on nuts instead. It fixed me! I gained a few pounds, but lost it and more thereafter - because the cravings were gone. So, hit 'em! Eat to satiety! For awhile, until your body figures it out...
                    Crohn's, doing SCD

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                    • #11
                      I'd say it's a good thing. Whenever I crave a certain food, I've always been able to self-regulate. Pork or cheese, for example. With sugar, when I'm on a carb bend, I am a bottomless pit.
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                      • #12
                        It's just difficult to keep my head straight when seemingly EVERYTHING is problematic. They say cut the carbs... not a lot of starch, not a ton of fruit... careful with nuts... consider cutting the dairy... that leaves very little to play around with when I'm not in the mood for meat.
                        Eat whole foods, avoid the stuff that inflames you. If you cut everything everyone says is not good, you will have an unsustainable diet. When you eat something not considered "optimal", use sense and consider how it impacts your body. If nuts and cream leave you satisfied, makes you feel good and allows you to acheive your health goals, don;t worry about. Same with fruit, carbs, dairy etc.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Damiana View Post
                          I'd say it's a good thing. Whenever I crave a certain food, I've always been able to self-regulate. Pork or cheese, for example. With sugar, when I'm on a carb bend, I am a bottomless pit.
                          I find when I am not getting enough meat is when I crave cheese. I spent many years eating enormous amounts of cheese but never being satisfied.

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                          • #14
                            Fats are fine. The best thing to do is just add an extra TBSP of coconut oil to every cooking event. It's an easy way to incorporate more fat and should keep you satisfied longer while reducing sugar cravings.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                              that's why you ignore 95% of the diet advice on the forum, eat your nuts and cream and be happy
                              This!!!

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