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  • The fruit was a bad idea....

    As you may or may not know from my siggy, I have bipolar disorder, so part of the reason why I'm doing a ketogenic diet is to help manage the symptoms of that, which is has done very, very well. But every time I eat berries, I end up really depressed and emotional from the sugar (yes, it has that big an effect on my moods) and it's just horrible. Ate a lot of berries today and I am a total wreck emotionally right now.

    I'm just venting I guess. I feel frustrated. I feel like I will never be able to eat how I want to because of the huge effect that food has on me. I mean, I can't have fruits, or god forbid I actually have a dark chocolate bar which is my absolute favorite without it leaving me in complete emotional upheaval. It just sucks, sometimes I want to have something sweet, or the occasional treat meal or something and I can't. Grrrrrr......

    Sorry for venting, but I appreciate you listening.

  • #2
    Sending you positive thoughts tonight.

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    • #3
      Listening and sending a virtual hug.

      I am intolerant to fructose, so I need to limit my sugar as well. Not as serious an issue, but I can relate.

      What has helped with managing my blood sugar: Magnesium and Vitamin D3 supplementation.
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      • #4
        Sorry that didn't work out for you as you hoped, but you are now at a higher level of wisdom.

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        • #5
          Agree totally it sucks,
          But I have to ask, what was a lot, did you possibly go over the top?

          Maybe you need to go to a slower release carb source like nuts to find that balance between Keto blues and Sugar depression.
          If you can find that place and stay there for a while that may actually help your body widen it's tolerance on both sides of the scale.

          It may be that stay with the keto diet and just have a well chewed nut or two every few hours.
          "There are no short cuts to enlightenment, the journey is the destination, you have to walk this path alone"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Omni View Post
            Agree totally it sucks,
            But I have to ask, what was a lot, did you possibly go over the top?

            Maybe you need to go to a slower release carb source like nuts to find that balance between Keto blues and Sugar depression.
            If you can find that place and stay there for a while that may actually help your body widen it's tolerance on both sides of the scale.

            It may be that stay with the keto diet and just have a well chewed nut or two every few hours.
            It was a lot, yes. I did have too much. I seem to tolerate around 100g no problem, but for some reason today I was really hungry, basically a bottomless pit and I was munching almost anything keto that I could get my hands on. I ate a whole days calories by 1pm today.....not sure why. As far as the berries, yes, I probably had about 8-10oz of them, possibly more. I was really, really craving carbs so I had the berries instead of diving into something far worse for me in the pantry. I'm still in ketosis which is good, because that probably would have sent me off the deep end with the way I'm feeling this evening, lol!!

            I should have just eaten more meat or my chocolate chili, but I was concerned about overdoing it on protein so I figured, a little bowl of berries with cream should be just fine, and well, that little bowl of berries turned into more and more berries.....you get the idea.

            Anyway, I'm just really tired now. Called the husband and had a good cry, ready to go to bed and start fresh with a new day.

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            • #7
              Crying releases a lot of hormonal tension,
              As for the rest, "Live & Learn"
              "There are no short cuts to enlightenment, the journey is the destination, you have to walk this path alone"

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              • #8
                Thanks everyone for the support.

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                • #9
                  I understand how you feel because in order to manage my weight, I have to remain very low carb [I secrete too much insulin]. Fruit is an incredible 'trigger' for me, so I have to totally abstain--and I love fruit.

                  What helps me is to recognize that people have to limit their diets for a variety of reasons--diabetics, for example--so I am not alone. I had a friend whose child was diagnosed as a Type 1 diabetic at age 6, and the poor boy was devastated because he could no longer tolerate fruit. Abstaining from candy didn't bother him, but fruit was difficult. But he was very, very compliant with his diet.

                  I remind myself of this little boy whenever I'm feeling sorry for myself. ALSO it helps me to ignore what I don't eat and focus on what I DO eat and enjoy. It's a 'mental fence' that I put around foods I don't eat that helps me keep them out of my consciousness.

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                  • #10
                    Ugh. So sorry for what you're going through. I'm by no means low carb and ice never even tried. I can't even imagine not even being able to have fruit. PMS is a pain for me unless I let myself indulge in tons of sugar, I can only hope yours is better...
                    F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                    "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by emmie View Post
                      ALSO it helps me to ignore what I don't eat and focus on what I DO eat and enjoy. It's a 'mental fence' that I put around foods I don't eat that helps me keep them out of my consciousness.
                      I am gluten-free by necessity. Gluten is that way for me, out of the picture and I choose from the foods I may have. Many people who must stay gluten-free for their health focus on the foods they cannot have and make their diet into some sort of penance.

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                      • #12
                        It is difficult sometimes. I personally am incapable of having "just a little" of anything with carbs or sugar in it. So I just stay away completely. I may in the future allow a cheat now and then but it has to be infrequent and rules-based. Like "only at a party with the family" kind of thing. Otherwise I will completely screw up. I just can't do "moderation."

                        Anyway, we begin now Marissa. Just dust yourself off, get back on the horse and don't worry about it anymore because people who do best at this don't blame themselves and get all freaked out. They just say "I'm human, it's okay, this is part of my learning process" and without the shame and guilt they actually stick and build their new habits a lot faster.

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                        • #13
                          I don't even think the fruit was a bad idea. It would have worked for some people, so you had to test to see if it could work for you. You didn't, you learned.

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                          • #14
                            Well it turned into a full on binge last night. Which turned into a few granola bars this morning and some yogurt covered raisins. But I'm done now. I have a horrible stomach ache and my head feels like it's spinning. I'm going to pretend like this morning never even happened. So today is back to day one. I CAN DO THIS FOR MY MENTAL HEALTH, that is my focus!!!

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                            • #15
                              If you go to Whole paycheck... Xyla a brand for (Xylitol) (some people are tolerant- I am and use it all the time)
                              makes a dark chocolate bar... it would help not spike your insulin, it's for diabetics and safe to eat.. maybe you could try it sometime... OR you could melt butter or coconut oil, mix in a tablespoon on unsweetened coco powder, cream, and add in your sugar substitute of choice and either freeze it for chocolate or drizzle it over some whipped cream ( no sugar added)... I hope this helps u get what your wanting/ craving with out the sugar effect!!

                              Big HUGS!!!

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