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    I am in my late 40s but not menopausal yet so this interests me. especially since my only real bit of fat is around my belly. I found this whilst cruising the net

    Study explains post-menopause belly fat

    this bit in particular. if we know why, what can we potentially do about it?

    Now, the new study, co-authored by the Mayo Clinic, has determined why: Proteins, revved up by the estrogen drop, cause fat cells to store more fat. And it gets worse. These cellular changes also slow down fat burning by the body

  • #2
    thats an interesting article Seas - so I conclude that there is no hope left for Gwamma !!!!
    "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

    ...small steps....

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    • #3
      My thinking is that with the way our insulin response (and food intake) has changed with PB, this may not be much of a concern. I don't have any scientific data on this. I'm hoping its nothing to be concerned with (I'm 49, 50 this year and not post menopausal).
      My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82833.html

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      • #4
        no you dont give up LOL you fight it to the death. i do wonder how much weight on average men put on over those years and whether some of it relates to giving up to a certain extent.

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        • #5
          My thinking is that with the way our insulin response (and food intake) has changed with PB, this may not be much of a concern. I don't have any scientific data on this. I'm hoping its nothing to be concerned with (I'm 49, 50 this year and not post menopausal).
          maybe we will still have the predisposed issue of our fat going to those areas. i have definitely noticed my fat, even tho there isnt really any more of it, is distrubuted differently as i have gone thru my 40s.

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          • #6
            I was never this lean before menopause. I have been post-menopausal for at least 8 years. I now weigh 57 pounds less than I did at this time last year and 72 pounds less than I did in 2009. They don't have the whole picture here.

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            • #7
              eKatherine - you are looking like one hot lady - very impressed with your avatar...........
              Praps you could PM me your strategies......................
              "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

              ...small steps....

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              • #8
                i definitely think they dont have the whole picture either. but i was more wondering what part of the picture they have. as a matter of interest, since you have obviously lost a lot of weight recently, where has most of it come off? you look incredible in your avatar.

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                • #9
                  I feel like I am returning to the shape I would have been when I was younger if I had been fit.

                  I first started to lose weight in 2009, when I couldn't afford to replace my car and started walking so I would be able to get places around this town and the next that I had to get to.

                  I had not been eating breakfast for years, as I realized I could wait until lunch without much discomfort and then eat 2 more substantial meals. And about that time I stopped eating past 6 pm because I was getting the most godawful heartburn from the snacking I had been doing in the evening.

                  I had given up gluten in 2003 or so when I realized I was intolerant.

                  I had never heard of intermittent fasting. But that's what I did.

                  My weight loss slowed down and stopped after about 9 months, and gradually I started to put weight back on as I eased up on my eating habits. I put back on about 15 pounds before I started to do research on what worked, on the assumption that it sure wasn't "diets".

                  I came across a book called "The Anderson Method" by William Anderson, a psychotherapist who practices Cognitive Behavioral Therapy with his clients. The fact is that it is not natural to be surrounded by ready-to-eat food. It is not natural to eat constantly. It is not natural to be afraid of hunger and starvation as we are as a culture. It is not natural to be obsessed with food.

                  People who are naturally thin do basically none of these things. They eat when they are hungry. They eat what they crave. And they stop when they are no longer hungry.

                  People who were formerly fat but have become thin and stayed that way need to cultivate that same relationship with hunger and with food. They need to learn their triggers and develop strategies to deal with them productively. As you do, it becomes easier.

                  Of course, there is a period of adjustment where you learn what it is you are eating (through tracking) and figure out how to learn proper portion sizes, how to eat enough to keep yourself from becoming famished but not so much that your weight loss stalls.

                  The program doesn't prescribe exercise. It doesn't prescribe a specific diet. Obsessive exercise and arbitrary restrictions work against developing sensible eating habits.

                  And on one level, the book is an ad for his weight loss program, which he certifies other psychologists etc to use.

                  So when I started losing weight again I started eating very slowly, eating small portions on small dishes. I started walking more. When I started exercising more, I ended up crashing, because it turns out I was getting barely enough protein to support a sedentary person. I had a couple of protein binges and figured I had a protein deficiency.

                  I ended up reading a lot of health and paleo blogs and ended up here. I've tried a lot of things. Intermittent fasting is a big one. Right now I'm on the steak-and-eggs challenge. I'm still losing weight.
                  Last edited by eKatherine; 05-07-2013, 04:32 PM.

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                  • #10
                    ITA that we need to have a decent relationship with food and hunger. how much protein do you think you should be eating? i can never get a definitive reply anywhere. i could easily live off steak and eggs but i get really wired after a few weeks of almost zero carbs which is counter productive to anything.

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                    • #11
                      I think if I was sedentary I would probably need 60 grams a day. I personally think I need more than most people. I've been all over the place. I'm not sure whether there is an advantage to eating excess protein. But if I drop down below 70-80 grams (given my present activity level) I start to crave animal products like mad.

                      I think the problem with protein demand is that every person is different, not only in your maintenance needs, but in how your body responds to activity. So some people have a big jump in their requirements if they are more active. If they don't eat it, they may feel tired and recover poorly.

                      I experienced this with my long walks. Early in the summer I would have maybe one or two good walks a week, and the rest were tired and/or sore. After upping my protein, I had lots more energy and was never sore or tired from walking.

                      When you do resistance exercise, your body will try to grow more muscle. How much and how fast is again, a very individual thing.

                      So when you see a chart that suggests a broad range, it's really the best they can do given what limited research has been done and the individual variation that is found.

                      If you find you crave meat and other protein food, just go for it. Don't eat lots of exceptionally fatty meat or cheese. Don't blame yourself for being an emotional eater if that happens.

                      One day I must have eaten almost 3000 calories, most of them meat. I lost half a pound from the day before.

                      The steak and eggs challenge is 4 weeks long. It involves 6 days of steak, eggs, and butter and 1 day of low fat high carb food. I was eating too much meat/calories by having 2 steaks a day. I figure I was eating about 2500 calories a day last week. I didn't gain weight. On my off day this past Sunday I ate seafood, vegetables, and fruit. I probably had almost a week's intake of vegetables and fruit.

                      I have cut back the steak and eggs to a more comfortable intake level, from 1500-1800 calories.

                      It's not supposed to be a long-term sustainable diet. It's a crazy 70s bodybuilder diet. If I decided to continue after the month, I would probably take a week off and eat anything but steak and eggs.

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                      • #12
                        I think the idea thou Seas - is to have a carb refeed every week, or have a few carbs daily. But its the old what works for one doesn't always work for another.
                        But thanx for that katherine - I hope you are really proud of where you are at !
                        "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                        ...small steps....

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                        • #13
                          yes i am more mindful that i dont ever want to put myself into that mental state by accident again as i do have to keep it together and look after the kids. it is a slow creep up and i think it is usually about 2 weeks before it all goes to custard which is annoying as i actually much prefer the carnivorous way of eating. which is what i meant when i said i could live off steak and eggs. it would not be a fad diet i had issues sticking to. not like nothing but potatoes for example. or nothing but celery and oranges i have seen someone eating. i do suspect i need more protein. i struggle on 55ishg a day. but on 90-100g, i feel overdone. so somewhere in the middle maybe. i exercise a lot too. and def katherine, you should be way proud of where you are at.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                            I came across a book called "The Anderson Method" by William Anderson, a psychotherapist who practices Cognitive Behavioral Therapy with his clients. The fact is that it is not natural to be surrounded by ready-to-eat food. It is not natural to eat constantly. It is not natural to be afraid of hunger and starvation as we are as a culture. It is not natural to be obsessed with food.
                            It sounds crazy, but this book changed my life, maybe saved my life. Though it's not a primal strategy, it really primed me for primal. I will probably end up weighing close to what I did when I graduated from high school (115 lbs) after being fat almost my whole adult life. I'm no longer impressed by anything I read about women and fat/weight.

                            eKatherine, you have motivated me to pay more attention to the amount of protein I'm getting.
                            50yo, 5'3"
                            SW-195
                            CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
                            GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
                              It sounds crazy, but this book changed my life, maybe saved my life. Though it's not a primal strategy, it really primed me for primal. I will probably end up weighing close to what I did when I graduated from high school (115 lbs) after being fat almost my whole adult life. I'm no longer impressed by anything I read about women and fat/weight.

                              eKatherine, you have motivated me to pay more attention to the amount of protein I'm getting.
                              I feel the same way. This book is the thing that got me started losing weight. It was like a switch flipping in my brain.

                              Being on diet sites and this site I have tried many things to see if they work. I am able to try these things because I am in control. If they fail, I am still in control. It feels hard to describe to someone who has not had that experience.

                              On some level it feels like the control that an anorexic experiences, but without the obsession with reaching an unhealthy weight.
                              Last edited by eKatherine; 05-08-2013, 05:07 AM.

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