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    There seems to be little doubt that the food we consume has a significant impact on our health.

    Currently listening to "Good Calorie, Bad Calories" and it seems to support much of the Grok lifestyle, especially reducing sugar and refined carbohydrates, flour and white rice in the diet.

    I understand that Mark and many of the members of the grok community have some habits that are far outside what the majority of people in any Western society do. Think Vibram shoes.

    Doesn't Mark somewhere say on his site that he wants to reach 10 million people with his message. That's great and I support that. How about providing some advice for people that don't live in California (where I come from) and are far from a Whole foods.

    - I don't cook and have no interest/time to start cooking
    - I often have pressure to order food delivered

    Is KFC chicken, maybe removing or keeping on the skin a reasonable grok food?
    How about McD double cheeseburger with bacon? Maybe remove the bun?
    How about fries, they are potatoes and no added sugar, so could be ok?
    It is clear to avoid all sodas no problem there.
    How about ice cream, I'm sure a no go on that one, though I have a hard time resisting.
    Pizza is out, I'm sure.
    So, is my only option KFC?

    What fast food options are there that are grok acceptable?

  • #2
    Originally posted by sthubbar View Post
    How about providing some advice for people that don't live in California (where I come from) and are far from a Whole foods.
    I'm from Australia... why would the advice be any different?
    On that note, we're more lucky here because we have more readily available whole foods, or cattle are mostly grass-fed by default, we don't use corn starch syrup, etc.

    - I don't cook and have no interest/time to start cooking
    That's like saying "I want to be a tri-athlete but don't like running, tell me what else to do to get there"

    Start cooking. It doesn't have to be a complex meal. There are meals that are quick and easy to prepare.

    - I often have pressure to order food delivered
    We all have pressure from everywhere to do certain things and not do certain things. We all have willpower, or the capacity to build it, when we want to achieve something.

    You seem to have already made up your mind that this can't work for you and that you have to take the lazy/quick way

    It's not so much Mark telling you what to eat, but how to make the best decisions. You have not read enough to be comfortable in making these decisions, otherwise you would know why fries are not healthy.
    Do some study!

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    • #3
      no to everything but the mcdonalds burger sans bun. except one of their burger options, i think the angus ones, have a spice blend on them that uses soybean oil.

      nothing from kfc is good as even the grilled options are doused in hydrogenated oils. same with the french fries from just about anywhere being cooked in a shitty soy/canola blend.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sthubbar View Post
        - I often have pressure to order food delivered
        No one has any power over you that you have not granted them.

        The fastest food? Cook up a giant kettle of something on the weekend and dish and heat all week.

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        • #5
          Thanks for the feedback.

          Maybe if I pose the question in a different way we can change the focus of the discussion.

          For example, I spend most of my life in hotels without kitchens and don't plan to spend my few days off doing an activity I don't enjoy and furthermore trying to transport 5 days worth of food in my luggage on a flight every Monday morning.

          How can I eat healthy without cooking my own food?

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          • #6
            US Wellness Meats has a lot of portable primal friendly proteins like pemmican, jerky, summer sausage, liverwurst, salami, etc. all of which are delicious.

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            • #7
              Eating healthy without cooking your own food is doable. To an extent.

              Be prepared to spend more money as a result however. One of the biggest benefits to cooking your own food is that you can control what goes in it and therefore, the cost. Plus, restaurants in general just tend to charge more than the food is worth in order to keep profit margins.

              However if you're willing to ditch buns, look for restaurants that source food from sustainable resources, do your best to avoid overly processed oils, you might do alright. Ask restaurants to cook your food in butter instead of oil, eat your salads naked or ask for olive oil and vinegar instead of the pre-made dressings which often are made with soy or sunflower oil. Do your research ahead of time to find which restaurants are most likely to be amenable to special requests. Also, try to learn at what restaurants you may not have to make as many "special requests" at.

              Obviously, stick to water when eating out and be sure to stay plenty hydrated at all times because the amount of sodium you'll be getting from eating out is probably going to be WAY beyond the levels you need and may cause some extra water retention and bloating.
              "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                US Wellness Meats has a lot of portable primal friendly proteins like pemmican, jerky, summer sausage, liverwurst, salami, etc. all of which are delicious.
                I was about to suggest that, except I realized he has rejected the idea of carrying his own food with him when he travels.
                "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
                  I was about to suggest that, except I realized he has rejected the idea of carrying his own food with him when he travels.
                  Yeah but if you put a couple of hunks of protein like that in your carry on bag, then you can just order salads wherever you are and be just fine.

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                  • #10
                    I appreciate the challenges of travel, but trying to wring fresh food out of a chain restaurant is like blood from a stone unfortunately. The model of a chain restaurant is to transport and sell dehydrated non-perishable items that will absolutely malnourish and toxify you no matter how "clean" it looks. I promise you they get their meat and produce from the least scrupulous suppliers they can find.

                    I don't know if this advice applies to where you travel but my first choice is always grocery store salad/deli bars. The quality varies but you can take your time inspecting it before you buy it. As a last resort I'll check a convenience store refrigerator for boiled eggs, cheese, carrot sticks, and fruit.
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                    • #11
                      Fast food from a store deli : boiled eggs, salad, rottesoire chicken, premade guacamole for said salad (wholly guacamole and some brand name that starts with a c), pre chopped veggies and fruit, etc...

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                      • #12
                        Whenever I'm on the move (in a hotel, walking for over 12h in an unfamiliar city, at uni all day...) I buy up supermarket veg, pre-cooked deli meats (choose the ones with only a bit of salt and dextrose; sugar's better than preservatives), uncooked mince, uncooked diced beef, fruit and HUGE bags of nuts (a 1kg bag is easy to transport and good for a quick fix).
                        This should be easy for you, as supermarkets are hard NOT to come by and all carry those foods (bar the nuts). Just pop in and stock up for the day.
                        --
                        Perfection is entirely individual. Any philosophy or pursuit that encourages individuality has merit in that it frees people. Any that encourages shackles only has merit in that it shows you how wrong and desperate the human mind can get in its pursuit of truth.

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                        I get blunter and more narcissistic by the day.
                        I'd apologize, but...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sthubbar View Post
                          [...]
                          - I don't cook and have no interest/time to start cooking
                          [...]
                          Before turning "primal", I was in the same boat: no interest in cooking at all, which made my wife quite annoyed and angry at times. So when she pushed me to cook something, I would make some quick pasta with a pre-made sauce, or order from a delivery company. I was SOOOO LAZY ...

                          When I turned my diet upside-down, I discovered a passion for simple cooking (I am not a chef in any stretch of the mind), I actually became the family cook, doing all sorts of things, mostly simple but when time allows, I try something a bit more complex. It's been 8 months and I don't even tire of it. Don't neglect a mind shift when you change your diet and only eat real whole foods.

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                          • #14
                            I think this thread is asking the impossible.

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                            • #15
                              If you can spend the time in line at a KFC then going back to your hotel and peeling off the breading, surely you have time to go to a local store to buy a chicken leg to boil or fry...it takes 10 minutes tops. Even less to shape a beef patty and cook it up.
                              F 28/5'4/100 lbs

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