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  • #16
    Hi Guys! (sorry cant seem to figure out how to put this in a more appropriate place, hopefully someone can enlighten me, but for now i guess have pity on a technologically unsaavy paleo aspirer ... )

    My name is Luke, and i am relatively new to the paleo lifestyle. I am feeling uneasy about all these criteria, and am wondering if i am getting the hang of it or not. I workout about 5 to 6 times a week, usually calisthenics along with three or four runs (maye 1 or 2 HIIT sessions thrown in). Anyways, the point being i am active. I dont thin i am the first person to say i really want to get lean and mean for the beach this summer ... If i had to guess i would say my BFP were somewhere around 11 percent (153 pounds, 5 foot 9)...anyways, i hope this is not sabotaging the thread, but does this look like a good pale sample day? Mistakes? Additions? Subtractions? Any help would be appreciated Thanks !

    Breakfast: 3 eggs in olive oil with some broccoli and mushrooms thrown in and half an avocado
    Post Workout: scoop of whey protein in almond milk, 2 tbsp of almond butter, 2 cups of raw spinach, half a banana, and (gulp) a serving of yogurt
    Dinner: 4 oz of chicken with onion broccoli and spinach (cooked in butter)

    is it enough calories?
    too little fat?
    too few carbs? I dont have a scale, so how do you guys measure vegetables (this in particular is stressing me out because i am aiming for around 100 grams but seem a bit oblivious as to how much i am consuming)

    Anyway, as you can see, as a noobie, i am stressing hard haha..
    Last edited by Raskalnikov92; 05-06-2013, 05:58 PM.

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    • #17
      Hey Luke Welcome!

      You'll get more responses if you start a new thread. Maybe the Meet and Greet forum - Meet and Greet | Mark's Daily Apple Health and Fitness Forum page - see on the left where it says + Post New Thread?

      The list of all the forums is here in case you want to post in Nutrition or Fitness instead. Good luck with your beach body
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Raskalnikov92 View Post
        Hi Guys! (sorry cant seem to figure out how to put this in a more appropriate place, hopefully someone can enlighten me, but for now i guess have pity on a technologically unsaavy paleo aspirer ... )

        My name is Luke, and i am relatively new to the paleo lifestyle. I am feeling uneasy about all these criteria, and am wondering if i am getting the hang of it or not. I workout about 5 to 6 times a week, usually calisthenics along with three or four runs (maye 1 or 2 HIIT sessions thrown in). Anyways, the point being i am active. I dont thin i am the first person to say i really want to get lean and mean for the beach this summer ... If i had to guess i would say my BFP were somewhere around 11 percent (153 pounds, 5 foot 9)...anyways, i hope this is not sabotaging the thread, but does this look like a good pale sample day? Mistakes? Additions? Subtractions? Any help would be appreciated Thanks !

        Breakfast: 3 eggs in olive oil with some broccoli and mushrooms thrown in and half an avocado
        Post Workout: scoop of whey protein in almond milk, 2 tbsp of almond butter, 2 cups of raw spinach, half a banana, and (gulp) a serving of yogurt
        Dinner: 4 oz of chicken with onion broccoli and spinach (cooked in butter)

        is it enough calories?
        too little fat?
        too few carbs? I dont have a scale, so how do you guys measure vegetables (this in particular is stressing me out because i am aiming for around 100 grams but seem a bit oblivious as to how much i am consuming)

        Anyway, as you can see, as a noobie, i am stressing hard haha..
        if you're cooking with butter why do you have this hesitancy to state you eat yogurt?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by j3nn View Post
          I'm pretty sure Mark has given a Primal pass to peas and string beans.
          Yes.
          Fresh green peas and green beans. Because those are fresh green foods and have not gone through the process of ripening and drying that imparts the phytates ans lectins.

          Pea protein is not a fresh green food though, nor derived from it.
          It's from ripe, dried peas... essentially the same as dried beans.


          But we all choose what we find acceptable.
          And in small amounts it's likely not a big deal.
          To each their own.
          I don't have an issue with eggs, so I'll stick with homemade mayo, with cultured whey.
          Duck fat/eggs makes a particularly tasty mayo!
          (local natural pastured duck and eggs)
          “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
          ~Friedrich Nietzsche
          And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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          • #20
            There are times when one can substitute softened butter for mayonnaise.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
              Fresh green peas and green beans. Because those are fresh green foods and have not gone through the process of ripening and drying that imparts the phytates ans lectins.

              Pea protein is not a fresh green food though, nor derived from it.
              It's from ripe, dried peas... essentially the same as dried beans.
              Thank you, cori.
              Are Peas and Green Beans Healthy? | Mark's Daily Apple
              just in case anyone really cares about peas that much.

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              • #22
                Raunchy - Ditch it. I like using tapenades, eggplant purees, sun-dried tomatoes, etc to "spice" things up

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                  Pea protein is not a fresh green food though, nor derived from it.
                  It's from ripe, dried peas... essentially the same as dried beans.
                  That's what I said. Peas and string beans. Nothing about pea protein being Primal. Paleobird said peas aren't Primal; I corrected her.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by j3nn View Post
                    That's what I said. Peas and string beans. Nothing about pea protein being Primal. Paleobird said peas aren't Primal; I corrected her.
                    Sorry.
                    The way I read your post it sounded like you were saying that since the green peas were given a pass that pea protein had a pass too.

                    I apologize if we were going in circles there because of the vein of the conversation.
                    Person asked about pea protein, response Mark OK's peas and other response Peas are legumes thus not OK...
                    I just wanted to make the distinction clear between the fresh green peas and dried peas/pea protein for the OP and others who might not be aware... if they decide to stay in keeping with "primal" of course.
                    Last edited by cori93437; 05-06-2013, 09:24 PM.
                    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by j3nn View Post
                      That's what I said. Peas and string beans. Nothing about pea protein being Primal. Paleobird said peas aren't Primal; I corrected her.
                      A thousand pardons, j3nn. How I should have phrased it is that the peas used in pea protein are not Primal. Mea culpa if I didn't make that clear.

                      When did this become the peas thread?

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                      • #26
                        Just to rectify it... again...

                        Make some homemade duck fat MAYO(with cultured whey). *drool*
                        “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                        ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                        And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                        • #27
                          Another reason to avoid all conventional "vegetable" oils (soy, corn, AND canola also) is that if they are not organic, they could contain a lot of pesticides, particularly Roundup which is used on most of the GMO plants that produce most of those oils. In most stores it is easy to find organic coconut oil, usually right next to the regular coconut oil. Try finding organic soy, corn, or canola oil. Pretty much impossible; because nearly all of what is grown is already Roundup Ready (c). It is important to avoid conventional oils because of pesticide content as much if not more so than PUFA content...

                          a pretty comprehensive review of research into Roundup and multiple potential routes by which it could be damaging everyone's health: Entropy | Free Full-Text | Glyphosate
                          (30 page text in pdf form with 286 references, discusses links to obesity as well)

                          mayo is very easy to make yourself; you can use a hand blender to mix one egg + 1/4 to 1/2 cup oil or so, with a tsp or so of either vinegar or lemon juice, and you can add in any flavoring you like. some that I made that had probably too much lemon juice, and made with bacon fat, lasted well over a month with no spoilage. (also, the bacon fat makes it very thick when cold) Or use light olive oil, I don't think Monsanto makes a Roundup Ready olive tree yet as far as I know, but I could be wrong...
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Wulf View Post
                            mayo is very easy to make yourself; you can use a hand blender to mix one egg + 1/4 to 1/2 cup oil or so, with a tsp or so of either vinegar or lemon juice, and you can add in any flavoring you like. some that I made that had probably too much lemon juice, and made with bacon fat, lasted well over a month with no spoilage. (also, the bacon fat makes it very thick when cold) Or use light olive oil, I don't think Monsanto makes a Roundup Ready olive tree yet as far as I know, but I could be wrong...
                            The vinegar/lemon juice addition is like the whey addition... except that the whey, has active cultures in it. It helps your Mayo stay good longer too.
                            Brilliant stuff.
                            A spoon full of whey is easy to get, just spoon out your plain yogurt leaving a deep hole in the middle of the tub, the liquid that collects there is what you want.

                            Here is a link.
                            Homemade Lacto-Fermented Mayonnaise
                            Lacto-fermented mayo is fab!
                            And no harder to make than regular mayo.
                            Plus it keeps for a really long time compared to other homemade mayo.
                            “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                            ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                            And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                            • #29
                              Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for showing me where to post properly Little Vase

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                                The vinegar/lemon juice addition is like the whey addition... except that the whey, has active cultures in it. It helps your Mayo stay good longer too.
                                Brilliant stuff.
                                A spoon full of whey is easy to get, just spoon out your plain yogurt leaving a deep hole in the middle of the tub, the liquid that collects there is what you want.

                                Here is a link.
                                Homemade Lacto-Fermented Mayonnaise
                                Lacto-fermented mayo is fab!
                                And no harder to make than regular mayo.
                                Plus it keeps for a really long time compared to other homemade mayo.
                                ah yea, all of those things (vinegar, citrus, whey) are acidic; the whey having the bonus of good bacteria that will hopefully out-compete any bad ones that get in there; one reason I think my last mayo batch stayed good so long is that all the lemon juice lowers the pH a LOT (lemon juice is VERY acidic), which greatly inhibits bad bacterial growth. similar to the why, which contains bacteria which like acid, such as acidophilus (literally, acid-lover in latin), which creates it's own acidic environment.

                                TMI of the day: lactobacillus acidophilus is also the type of bacteria that lives in the vagina; you can cure your own BV or yeast infection with an acidophilus capsule, no prescription antibiotics needed.
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