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  • #76
    Great that you're feeling good again. I may stay with this but take a week off after week four and eat gluten-free pizza every night before diving back in.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by ajm422 View Post
      She broke with her veganism after only six and a half days. Such is a miserable lifestyle. You know vegan food is lacking because they offer vegan mayonnaise and vegan cheese and vegan ham and turkey. No one tries to pass sausage in the guise of vegetables because animals taste better than plants. You can keep your tofurkeys and your arrowroot cheese. I'll take a dead, bleeding bird and some ground up pig, thank you very much.
      So she's embarking on her own, less extreme diet of meat and greens.
      This is perfect. Yay, for team meat!

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
        This is perfect. Yay, for team meat!
        You beat me to it. I think this is one of the more insightful observations I have heard recently.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by ajm422 View Post
          No one tries to pass sausage in the guise of vegetables because animals taste better than plants.
          I love this. Animals for the win!
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          • #80
            I weigh 174 this morning (was 170.2 last Friday before the unholy carbohydrategasm). This is to be expected - I should return to 170-171 tomorrow, based on previous experiences. Yesterday's supper was a 24 oz. sous vide sirloin and five fried eggs. I added far too much butter to the pan prior to frying the eggs and they ended up floating in a buttery bath. I poured some of it back over the plated meat and eggs, but the sight of all that butter made me uneasy.

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            I came down with a nasty headache midday and took the evening off from training. I'm fasting today so I'll just train double duty tomorrow evening. It's good to be back on the steak and eggs. Life is so much simpler that way.
            I'm a weak man...If I give myself a few feet of leeway, I burst through all of my prohibitions.

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            • #81
              Managed to fast yesterday. Well, mostly. I had a dram of Scotch and a small glass of wine. Drinking fasted is rather effective if done properly - that is if one remembers to drink his water. I know it's not within the confines of the diet, but in terms of cheats a few grams of alcohol is pretty benign. De novo lipogenesis from alcohol is practically nonexistent and in the absence of dietary fats, there will be no fat storage. The effect is momentary shutdown of fat oxidation while the alcohol is converted to acetate for energy. No harm, no foul.

              Woke up and I'm 170.8, which is more or less the same as last Friday. Just as I suspected, the bloat and bulk of the carb binge disappeared by Wednesday. I get the sense the body is rather cross with me. I haven't eaten in 39 hours, I've bicycled twelve vigorous miles, drank some alcohol, and I've taken two ice cold showers. I wouldn't say I'm hungry at the moment, but the body wants something. I have a thirst for heavy lifting. I want to sweat and lift and then rip a piece of meat apart. I feel absurd sitting in a climate controlled lab, clicking through spreadsheets. After the high of an icy shower, the thrill of a taxing bike ride, and the predatory clarity that comes along with 40 hours of fasting, my white collar job just seems so . . . banal. The mind wanders strangely when you subject yourself to such abuse.
              I'm a weak man...If I give myself a few feet of leeway, I burst through all of my prohibitions.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by ajm422 View Post
                After the high of an icy shower, the thrill of a taxing bike ride, and the predatory clarity that comes along with 40 hours of fasting, my white collar job just seems so . . . banal. The mind wanders strangely when you subject yourself to such abuse.
                I am right there with you, at 42 hours fast, same bike ride (but no booze) and my predator's hunger is slowly waking up. My job is s/w programming and I decided to quit it by end of the year (at the latest). I hope they actually fire me with a nice severance package ...

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                • #83
                  I've achieved steady state. The body is fully adjusted to steak and eggs and we're smooth sailing. Five by five. I did have a rather weak workout last night - deadlifts were down one rep on the top RPT set and bench press was down two reps. But so far it's an isolated incident so it will be attributed to noise in the signal. The scale was at a tantalizing 170.2 this morning. I haven't been under 170 in over a year. Granted I'm glycogen depleted at the moment so my true weight is more like 174, but the psychological effects of seeing 169.X in the near future will be impressive. The best part? Regular, healthy bowel movements.

                  This evening I plan on having a big bowl of ground beef with fried eggs over top. Last time I tried eating a bowl of ground beef by itself I found it greasy and rather unappealing. This time I think I'll throw in 1/4 onion and maybe some mushrooms for a bit of texture. At this point my cravings are nil and my hunger is minimal so I don't have cause to believe a few vegetables will spur a binge. I'll post pictures later. Ahh. Rest day.
                  I'm a weak man...If I give myself a few feet of leeway, I burst through all of my prohibitions.

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                  • #84
                    I've found that to avoid greasy mince one should just cook them for longer, until they get crispy and gnarly. Or, just place on some paper towels and pat dry.

                    That's my supper tonight.

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                    • #85
                      I'm enjoying following along with your steak and eggs and lifiting. I hope you do stick with it!

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                      • #86
                        For the first time in 12 months, the scale reads 169 pounds. What a huge event for me. Once again, I acknowledge I'm glycogen- and water-depleted. But I don't care. The scale read 182.6 on April 1st, just under seven weeks ago. I've lost 13 pounds since then and five pounds on steak and eggs. Now I've been on enough diet-induced weight swings to know the scale doesn't tell the whole story (though generally if the numbers go down we're in good shape). But my reflection is really something else. I've always been blocky and rather shapeless so I'm taken aback every morning when I look in the mirror and see a vee shaped torso and thick arms. I've been muscular for quite a long time but this is the first time I've had any sort of physique worth noting. I can't wait to post my before/after S&E pictures when I'm done with the diet.

                        On another note, it's Bike to Work Day here in the DC region, which is fantastic. I bike to work every day of the year so it was just another normal day for me, except I got a tee shirt and a free bottle of chain lubricant. While it was great to see so many cyclists on the roads, I was sad to see so many of my plump, soft coworkers mowing down Au Bon Pain bagels and bread loaves smothered in Nutella and Jif. Time to carb up! I live right near a popular road for weekend warrior cyclists and it's really quite amazing how fat they all are. Watching a herd of jerseys fly by on a Sunday morning is really a sight. For every lithe, trim man or woman there are eight sagging mustachioed middle managers slurping down energy gel. Cycling a few miles a week really entitles these people to hork down all this food when they quite plainly have loads of energy filling out their skintight club jerseys. And I'm sure they wonder why they don't lose weight. I bet they'd have a more favorable energy balance if they sat on their asses at home reading a book.

                        Anyway it was a fun event, despite my misgivings. When I did the PSMF last year I was having vivid, fantastical dreams about bread. I would wake up in the middle of the night with sourdough on my lips, yearning for some yeasty glory. Once or twice, I'm sad to admit, I'd linger around the bakery at Whole Foods just smelling the bread. Now I wasn't a breadaholic prior to the diet, but the PSMF clearly induced some serious carb cravings. It's mildly amazing that steak and eggs has not produced such an effect. This morning as I watched the merry cyclists pop bagels like they were peanuts I felt at most a mild aversion. I had no inclination to join in. Now, if they'd had an omelette station or a chafing dish full of bacon, I can't promise I would have shown the same restraint... In any case it's nice not to have constant carb cravings, or even be thinking about food at all. I fast from dusk 'til dusk so when I'm at work I just mill about and get stuff done. I still drink titanic amounts of coffee, but I've been doing that for years. The fat flies off and I still salivate at the thought of S&E for dinner. What a wonder.
                        Last edited by ajm422; 05-17-2013, 06:26 AM.
                        I'm a weak man...If I give myself a few feet of leeway, I burst through all of my prohibitions.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by ajm422 View Post
                          For the first time in 12 months, the scale reads 169 pounds. What a huge event for me.
                          I'm down to 140 after fasting yesterday. I haven't been this light in many years.

                          When I did the PSMF last year I was having vivid, fantastical dreams about bread. I would wake up in the middle of the night with sourdough on my lips, yearning for some yeasty glory. Once or twice, I'm sad to admit, I'd linger around the bakery at Whole Foods just smelling the bread. Now I wasn't a giant breadaholic prior to the diet, but the PSMF clearly induced some serious carb cravings. It's mildly amazing that steak and eggs has not produced such an effect.
                          When I did the PSMF I craved fat, not carbs. Drove me absolutely nuts.

                          This morning as I watched the merry cyclists pop bagels like they were peanuts I felt at most a mild aversion. I had no inclination to join in. Now, if they'd had an omelette station or a chafing dish full of bacon, I can't promise I would have shown the same restraint...
                          STEAK TIPS!

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by ajm422 View Post
                            For the first time in 12 months, the scale reads 169 pounds. What a huge event for me. Once again, I acknowledge I'm glycogen- and water-depleted. But I don't care. The scale read 182.6 on April 1st, just under seven weeks ago. I've lost 13 pounds since then and five pounds on steak and eggs. Now I've been on enough diet-induced weight swings to know the scale doesn't tell the whole story (though generally if the numbers go down we're in good shape). But my reflection is really something else. I've always been blocky and rather shapeless so I'm taken aback every morning when I look in the mirror and see a vee shaped torso and thick arms. I've been muscular for quite a long time but this is the first time I've had any sort of physique worth noting. I can't wait to post my before/after S&E pictures when I'm done with the diet.

                            On another note, it's Bike to Work Day here in the DC region, which is fantastic. I bike to work every day of the year so it was just another normal day for me, except I got a tee shirt and a free bottle of chain lubricant. While it was great to see so many cyclists on the roads, I was sad to see so many of my plump, soft coworkers mowing down Au Bon Pain bagels and bread loaves smothered in Nutella and Jif. Time to carb up! I live right near a popular road for weekend warrior cyclists and it's really quite amazing how fat they all are. Watching a herd of jerseys fly by on a Sunday morning is really a sight. For every lithe, trim man or woman there are eight sagging mustachioed middle managers slurping down energy gel. Cycling a few miles a week really entitles these people to hork down all this food when they quite plainly have loads of energy filling out their skintight club jerseys. And I'm sure they wonder why they don't lose weight. I bet they'd have a more favorable energy balance if they sat on their asses at home reading a book.

                            Anyway it was a fun event, despite my misgivings. When I did the PSMF last year I was having vivid, fantastical dreams about bread. I would wake up in the middle of the night with sourdough on my lips, yearning for some yeasty glory. Once or twice, I'm sad to admit, I'd linger around the bakery at Whole Foods just smelling the bread. Now I wasn't a breadaholic prior to the diet, but the PSMF clearly induced some serious carb cravings. It's mildly amazing that steak and eggs has not produced such an effect. This morning as I watched the merry cyclists pop bagels like they were peanuts I felt at most a mild aversion. I had no inclination to join in. Now, if they'd had an omelette station or a chafing dish full of bacon, I can't promise I would have shown the same restraint... In any case it's nice not to have constant carb cravings, or even be thinking about food at all. I fast from dusk 'til dusk so when I'm at work I just mill about and get stuff done. I still drink titanic amounts of coffee, but I've been doing that for years. The fat flies off and I still salivate at the thought of S&E for dinner. What a wonder.
                            Another great well written log. You really should give consideration to writing a book someday. Congrats on the weight loss (fat loss) and body change!
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by canuck416 View Post
                              Another great well written log. You really should give consideration to writing a book someday. Congrats on the weight loss (fat loss) and body change!
                              This. I really look forward to your updates, ajm. You definitely have a way with words.
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by ajm422 View Post
                                I live right near a popular road for weekend warrior cyclists and it's really quite amazing how fat they all are.
                                I used to ride with a bunch of older recumbent bike riders. Oh my god now these people are fat! First was the pre-ride bagels. Then we rode to a place to have lunch. Some of these guys were well over 300lbs. It seems bike riders tend to be on either end of the spectrum: very thin or fat. Not many of them are muscular.

                                Good job on breaking the 170 barrier.
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