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  • #16
    Originally posted by FireFinder View Post
    I've been eating VLC in an effort to lean out. It seems to be working.
    However, I've been feeling crummy during workouts. Today I "tried" to do my normal sprinting routine and totally struggled to complete even half of it. I feel like I have NO gas in the tank. And after lifting, I feel zonked.

    So, do I back off all workouts? Or do I try carb cycling? Or is that just for body builders? Will it hinder weight loss?
    How long have you been VLC? Most people will say that it inhibits performance -- and it may for some -- but I've found that most people who say that simply aren't keto-adapted. There are people that kill it in the performance arena who are VLC.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by little vase View Post
      How? Would a 60 minute walk be better for fat loss?
      Long distance cardio (at a low heart rate) trains your body to store fat since fat is the fuel of choice for that type of exercise. Walks are fine.

      Originally posted by The Rebooted Body View Post
      How long have you been VLC? Most people will say that it inhibits performance -- and it may for some -- but I've found that most people who say that simply aren't keto-adapted. There are people that kill it in the performance arena who are VLC.
      Who exactly is killing it on VLC?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by The Rebooted Body View Post
        How long have you been VLC? Most people will say that it inhibits performance -- and it may for some -- but I've found that most people who say that simply aren't keto-adapted. There are people that kill it in the performance arena who are VLC.
        Been LC just a couple of weeks. So, I'm guessing probably not totally adapted yet? Just not sure if I should keep truckin' or do some cycling. The cycling appeals to me b/c I miss the variety, and it sounds like might be great for workouts. My concern is that the carbs will stall weight loss.....

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Zach View Post
          Long distance cardio (at a low heart rate) trains your body to store fat since fat is the fuel of choice for that type of exercise. Walks are fine.
          Thanks Zach.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by FireFinder View Post
            Been LC just a couple of weeks. So, I'm guessing probably not totally adapted yet? Just not sure if I should keep truckin' or do some cycling. The cycling appeals to me b/c I miss the variety, and it sounds like might be great for workouts. My concern is that the carbs will stall weight loss.....
            Well, to be totally adapted particularly at slightly higher intensities it will take longer than a couple weeks. People who do low carb for athletic purposes are frequently in the endurance field. But, I do know that there are a few rock climbers and other people on this forum that work at higher intensity doing it. For the most part though it takes a month or two to get fully adapted.

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            • #21
              Carbs are not the enemy of fat loss. Unless you are morbidly obese you will need carbs to keep from lowering metabolism. The leaner you are the higher your carbs will need to be.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by FireFinder View Post
                Serenity- did you carb-up for a whole day once a week? And did you find it was helpful for leaning you out (if that was your goal?)
                Yes, I carbed up for a whole day (sometimes two) once a week. I did it in order to be able to do HIIT. Mark mentioned in one of his articles that doing sprints while in a glycogen-depleted state could cause metabolic problems. I wanted to avoid metabolic problems. Others on this forum may disagree over whether you'll develop those problems by doing HIIT while VLC, but I didn't want to risk it, you know.

                I had a hard time losing any fat even though I was VLC and counted calories. I did this for 3-4 months. I'm a bad example because I'm sure something is wrong with me. I suspect the IUD, and I'm getting it removed tomorrow. But I probably won't go back to VLC because I'm doing Crossfit so any given day could be a high intensity day

                Google cyclic ketogenic diet. Bodybuilders use it when they're trying to cut. Others have been successful on it so just b/c it didn't really work for me doesn't mean that it doesn't work.

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                • #23
                  There are many diets (leangains, biorhythm,etc) that uses carb cycling but the principles are the same. Consume all your carbs around the time of exercise. About 1/3 before and 2/3rds post. Keep the off days and the rest of your time low carb.

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                  • #24
                    Two weeks is plenty of time to empty glycogen storage. You can estimate your storage and burn and I bet it's hitting the floor. When muscle stores don't have enough to offer up locally to the muscle -- Bonk, failure, etc.. And muscle storage doesn't get put back in your blood stream. Keep in mind that if you have no excess glycogen then it shouldn't be stored as fat, it goes to a storage area. Whatever you burn through in intense workouts can be replaced. Personally, I would get carbs post workouts. I don't feel pre-carbing is necessary for sprints or heavy lifting, really depends on how you feel.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Zach View Post
                      Carbs are not the enemy of fat loss. Unless you are morbidly obese you will need carbs to keep from lowering metabolism. The leaner you are the higher your carbs will need to be.
                      More impetus to lean out

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                      • #26
                        Zach-
                        "The leaner you are the higher your carbs will need to be.[/QUOTE]

                        Why is this? It seems like if you have just a few lb's of fat to drop, decrease carbs would lead one to use that as fuel? Not so? Yes, I am looking for an answer to weight loss that does not involve LC!
                        Last edited by FireFinder; 05-03-2013, 11:12 AM.

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