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  • Originally posted by Zach View Post
    Another big sign of hypo is not sweating and urinating a lot. Drop the amount of water/tea you drink and concentrate on the juice/fruit for liquids.

    So you were a vegetarian before paleo?
    You know, quite a lot of people asked me that when I was at uni (graduated last year).Someone even said I look ill which could be the dark circles or because I was 10-14lbs lighter when I was at uni. (stressful architecture degree with a huge amount of stress and little calorie intake) I wasn't a vegetarian but everyday/meal would be chicken breast (CAFO) or salmon (wild). Occasionally tuna and that was it! Even when I went paleo, it was a while before I ate red meat because I still had the impression it was bad. I then visited the organic farm where they grass fed the animas and I can see why meat is so important, and tasty.

    I only really drink so much tea because for one I'm english! but also just because it's still cold here and tea warms me up. I'm going to use fruit juice for cold and tea for hot drink. Actually just amking jello right now and it looks amazing.

    I'm really starting to understand that I've not been making healthy choices and why low carb has made my body so messed up with no real recovered after the typical meat and veg.
    Last edited by Nstocks; 04-28-2013, 10:34 AM.

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    • I dont understand the british = drink tea thing. Is it like americans with coffee? I dont get that either, haha.

      The problem with using tea to warm up is its actually counterproductive because tea is a diuretic and also flushes sodium so you get a double cooling effect and an energy crash. You should aim to warm yourself with dry foods, salt and improving your thyroid and metabolism.

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      • Originally posted by Zach View Post
        I dont understand the british = drink tea thing. Is it like americans with coffee? I dont get that either, haha.

        The problem with using tea to warm up is its actually counterproductive because tea is a diuretic and also flushes sodium so you get a double cooling effect and an energy crash. You should aim to warm yourself with dry foods, salt and improving your thyroid and metabolism.
        Haha, well it's a long english tradition to have tea and cakes in the afternoon, so I guess the tea thing is still a modern part of what people drink? I always though it was Italians and coffee!

        Dry foods? Dried fruit? Most fruit is high in water so I guess that isn't a 'dry food'?

        Is it advisable to keep taking NOW super enzymes (HCL200mg) at each meal as well as Biokult once a day whilst I try to improve my thyroid?

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        • Originally posted by Zach View Post
          I dont understand the british = drink tea thing. Is it like americans with coffee? .
          It's like Americans with soda

          Actually, many nations drink huge amounts of tea, I don't know what it got so associated with the Brits. Go to India or China (or Ireland) and they'd show you what real tea consumption is...!

          I used to drink twelve cups a day.
          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

          - Ray Peat

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          • Originally posted by Nstocks View Post
            I've been paleo for over 2 years now. I started cutting out all processed foods when I did a candida cleanse. The program was initially for 7 days but I actually did it for over 2 months! After that, grains most processed sugars, all dairy and other foods where not part of my diet. Sure I ate some junky candy now and then but considering how far I had come at that time, I could at least allow some 'bad' foods.

            I've been modified paleo for 2 months now (so autoimmune paleo) and it's still just not working. I'm starting to connect the dots between going too low carb and not realising it, and the consequence that has had for me personally. I mean, even last year a typical day would be a green smoothie (with berries), salad and fish for lunch and dinner would be chicken or salmon with salad or sweet potato. I've actually only started to eat meat in this past year and perhaps I've been overdoing that? Some weeks it would be red meat at all but two meals! (which cost a lot too)

            I'd say I drink as much tea as I drink water. Each mug of tea is 500ml and I easily drink 3 of those a day. Then between meals I'd drink probably 3 pints of water. Sometimes its less sometimes its more tea and less water. I pass water fairly often but I don't sweat at all. Like nothing. Even when I had a cold last year (which doesn't happen every year), I took a bath of epson salts and ginger which is suppose to make you sweat tremendously but I never did.

            I've definitely heard that dark circles are kidney related too. Last time I went to the doctors he asked if I drink (I don't) and they just looked into my eyes. After that he just said "You are fine".

            A natural practitioner also suggested this to me one year ago: "One of the causal factors is also the way in which iron is processed by the body leading to iron metabolites that accumulate around the delicate area. There is a genetic link for this concern though often anaemia, iron deficiency, could be a problem. Poor liver function is another possibility but in both cases tests will have to be performed."

            My blood tests were fine and the Doc still didn't see that I had any problems. He also had me lay down and felt my stomach for organ size and there were fine too. Not that it's related but I had a hernia about 10 years ago. Not sure what the 'part' was that they needed to operate but the scar line is just below my underwear line.
            Are you drinking tap water by any chance? Depending on what part of the UK you're in, the tap water can be pretty ghastly and can definitely contribute to spots.

            Also, it's possible that you're over-hydrating. I agree with Zach about the tea: it won't hydrate you. Try drinking warm water with salt and lemon. Also, how's your body temp? If it's too low your body may not be hot enough to absorb the water that you're consuming and you just pee it out.

            Not trying to make you orthorexic about water now! Like I said before, I would aim for a really moderate approach diet-wise, including your water consumption: keep hydrated, but don't try to chug too much. Would be curios to see if it effects your circles or acne.

            You're really young and you'll bounce back. I think the most important thing is to work on having a healthier relationship with food. Did you read the article Neckhammer linked? I thought it was good.
            "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

            In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

            - Ray Peat

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            • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
              Are you drinking tap water by any chance? Depending on what part of the UK you're in, the tap water can be pretty ghastly and can definitely contribute to spots.

              Also, it's possible that you're over-hydrating. I agree with Zach about the tea: it won't hydrate you. Try drinking warm water with salt and lemon. Also, how's your body temp? If it's too low your body may not be hot enough to absorb the water that you're consuming and you just pee it out.

              Not trying to make you orthorexic about water now! Like I said before, I would aim for a really moderate approach diet-wise, including your water consumption: keep hydrated, but don't try to chug too much. Would be curios to see if it effects your circles or acne.

              You're really young and you'll bounce back. I think the most important thing is to work on having a healthier relationship with food. Did you read the article Neckhammer linked? I thought it was good.
              I drink pure filtered water both from the fridge dispenser and the BRITA kettle. Sometimes I drink mint tea to relieve bloating as it is a digestive aid...

              I tested my body temp a few months ago and I was around 1 degree under the normal 36.8C under the tongue. I know this is bad and most likely result of too low carb because my body is trying to reserve energy. This is also why I thought I always had cold hands and feet - 3 years ago I'm pretty sure I didn't need a heater 8/12months of the year to stop my feet feeling like ice blocks.

              I'll definetley cut down on the fluids. Today I have about one carton of fruit juice and one cup of tea. That's probably enough.

              I did read the article by Neckhammer and it's very much how I feel.

              "So what is a "problematic fixation" with eating healthy food? For some folks, it has a meaning similar to too much masturbation… someone who thinks about it or practices it more than you do. But like all psychiatric conditions the cardinal issue is that the obsession interferes with normal functioning or relationships or causes pathology, such as anxiety. If you don't have celiac disease or a serious gluten intolerance and going to a family party causes you great anxiety because you are worried that Uncle Brad cut the cucumbers with the same knife he used to slice the bread, you might have a problem."

              This is definitely me. I really do avoid situations where I can't control the food, like family BBQ's. I'm always exposed to this "low carb" paradigm which I've probably taken too far without realising that further restriction = less health ultimately. (I love how many nutrients, antioxidants and phytochemicals are in berry fruit juices!)

              I've cut out way too much food and food groups. For instance if I say "I eat vegetables" that excluded FODMAPS and nightshades which are a wide variety. Same with fruit although I'm really enjoying that now! Dairy hasn't been a part of my diet for about 4 years either. Last dairy I had was goats milk yoghurt which made me fee; "hungover" so to speak. This is why I now have a limited variety of food because I try things for a few days and then never eat them again.
              I'm going to try some goat cheese this week and see how that is. I also made some jello with great lakes gelatin and blueberries + fruit juice. I like that and might try cream/ice cream with it. Not "ideal" ice cream but still.
              Last edited by Nstocks; 04-28-2013, 12:08 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Nstocks View Post
                Haha, well it's a long english tradition to have tea and cakes in the afternoon, so I guess the tea thing is still a modern part of what people drink? I always though it was Italians and coffee!

                Dry foods? Dried fruit? Most fruit is high in water so I guess that isn't a 'dry food'?

                Is it advisable to keep taking NOW super enzymes (HCL200mg) at each meal as well as Biokult once a day whilst I try to improve my thyroid?
                Dry food would just he food with less water content. If you feel cold eat some potatoes or similar. Heavily salted.

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