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    I know that the occasional glass of wine is considered appropriate, but what about us beer drinkers? I drink a light beer with only 5 carbs, but I know carbs are not the only issue with weight gain...and yet I keep justifying 'I've been good all day, what's 5 carbs?'

    Can someone explain how beer/alcohol affects weight (and yes I know it is made from grain and contains gluten).

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    Tip 203: Avoid Alcohol to Lose Belly Fat and Support a Lean Physique - Charles Poliquin
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    • #3
      Excellent, exactly what I needed to read! thanks for posting that :-)

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        I don't think that link was especially helpful. I think having one beer with only 5 grams of carbs isn't going to be a big deal if you're not gluten intolerant. However, I've been read Kresser a lot lately, and, apparently, a lot of people (30% of Americans) are gluten intolerant and don't know it.

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        • #5
          It's not the gluten, and it's not *necessarily* the carbs - it's the metabolism of the substrate that is alcohol.

          There are, generally, three macronutrients - fat, protein, and carbohydrates. Alcohol, however, is a fourth - the metabolic breakdown product, acetate, is toxic, so metabolism of that takes precedent over the other three.

          What this means is that it puts the stopper on the oxidation of fat, protein, and carbs for energy- which means they get stored in adipose tissue (fat cells).

          You may want to check this out:
          The truth about alcohol, fat loss and muscle growth | Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health
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          • #6
            this great blue world of ours seems a house of leaves, moments before the wind
            Beautiful sig!

            Is it possible that some spirits actually speed up the metabolism, as the body tries to rid itself of the poison? Whatever about beer, wine etc., whenever I drink a glass of whiskey I always have the feeling that it gives my metabolism a kick.

            Which is based on nothing but speculation.
            Last edited by YogaBare; 04-25-2013, 12:01 PM.
            "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

            In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

            - Ray Peat

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            • #7
              Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
              Is it possible that some spirits actually speed up the metabolism, as the body tries to rid itself of the poison? Whatever about beer, wine etc., whenever I drink a glass of whiskey I always have the feeling that it gives my metabolism a kick.
              Which is based on nothing but speculation.
              Nope, sorry, bdilla nailed it. You're getting a rush because you're getting drunk.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                Beautiful sig!

                Is it possible that some spirits actually speed up the metabolism, as the body tries to rid itself of the poison? Whatever about beer, wine etc., whenever I drink a glass of whiskey I always have the feeling that it gives my metabolism a kick.
                Yes, the heat many people feel after drinking is due to a certain thermogenic ramping up of the metabolism. How much this count for I don't know, but I know it's around 10 % of ingested calories from carbs. The bad news though, is that many people also enjoy to eat more after drinking...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by serenity View Post
                  I don't think that link was especially helpful. I think having one beer with only 5 grams of carbs isn't going to be a big deal if you're not gluten intolerant. However, I've been read Kresser a lot lately, and, apparently, a lot of people (30% of Americans) are gluten intolerant and don't know it.
                  The part of the link that explained the metabolism of alcohol was quite helpful. I knew there was more to it than carbs....just didn't know what!

                  My hubby and kids are extremely gluten intolerant...I am very well informed on the topic!

                  Thanks to everyone else who chimed in. I guess if you are going to indulge at least dont do it on top of a large meal eh?

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                  • #10
                    Actually, this thread reminded me of the evening when I distinctly felt / imagined my metabolism increase after a few Jamesons. When I got home I did a quick google search and found the following article: The effect of alcohol on resting metabolic rate

                    Which I completely forgot about, until now. Funny that...

                    I can't remember its conclusion either
                    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                    - Ray Peat

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                    • #11
                      Interesting related article: http://www.colorado.edu/intphys/Clas.../raben2003.pdf

                      Alcohol consumption does increase energy expenditure, but it also suppresses fat oxidation. However, carb consumption also suppresses fat oxidation although not to the same extent as alcohol consumption. All this means is that the body will burn alcohol and carbs before it burns fat. So, yes, you will not burn as much fat after you consume alcohol, but this means little, except that alcohol contains calories. Anything that contains calories will slow down fat loss if consumed because those calories will either be expended or stored (unless the calories are stored in a form that's indigestible by humans, like cellulose). The question is to what extent the increased energy expenditure induced by alcohol consumption cancels out the calories contained in the alcohol.

                      Alcohol consumption also suppresses blood leptin levels. However, oddly enough, it had no real effect on the subjects' subjective feelings of satiety vs. hunger. I can tell you that alcohol always increases my appetite, and that is a bigger problem for me than the alcohol itself.
                      Last edited by diene; 04-25-2013, 04:30 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Your body prioritizes the metabolism of alcohol so guess what happens to other calories you ingest? Also slows metabolism. When I was a really skinny young adult the Dr said have a couple drinks before eating.

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                        • #13
                          My usual Cuba Libre made on Bacardi Rum, Coke Zero and lime juice will give a much lower calorie impact than the same amount of calories in Bulletproof Coffee! That’s means that my metabolism will give me a calorie discount related to the thermogenic response of alcohol, so since one gram of alcohol contain 7,1 calorie, I receive a “celebration discount” so to say, and down to only 5,7 - 6,0 calorie per gram! One gram of fat on the other hand contains 9,0 calories and the max discount you can get from ingesting it is down to 8,73 calories or perhaps not even that! So my the same amount of calories in my Cuba Libre is better for weight loss than Bulletproof Coffee, at least if comparing the same amount of calories…

                          Is Alcohol Your Weight Loss Kryptonite?
                          "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

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