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  • Originally posted by Daryl View Post
    Hey there. I don't worry about grass vs grain too much, but I agree the more of the animal you can eat, the better off you'll be.
    I understand the cost limitations of eating pastured meat but I do everything I can to ensure my meat is pastured, organic and local if possible. I feel the same about eggs, try to ensure they are from free range chickens, are not fed soy products or anti biotics and are from local farms. I believe the level of toxins, use of antibiotics and growth hormones makes most of the typical meat products in grocery stores unhealthy to eat.
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    • I really feel for you folks. It's crazy that grain fed meat beef is the norm, over here it's sold as a delicacy in high end restaurants because it's an expensive way to raise cattle.

      It's much cheaper here to let them roam free on grassy hills and just round them up when it's time for slaughter.

      Free range eggs are still expensive sadly, at NZS$5.60 per dozen if your lucky (in a super market). Right next to trays of 30 cage eggs for almost the same price.

      In fact, my food bill for this week came to approx $80, with the eggs costing as much as, if not more than the steak.
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      Originally posted by tfarny
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      • Okay, I'm late to this challenge but I'm in. I've been off the strict paleo wagon for a bit and would love to lose some pounds. I'll start Saturday. Refeed on Fridays. Sometimes I'll have ground beef instead of steak because steak is sometimes hard to find steak in Asia. Also I'll be cooking up my steaks in garlic and onions and occasionally mushrooms. May add a small salad once a day to keep the bowels regular. There will be cream in my coffee. I'll weigh in on Saturday.

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        • Originally posted by ajm422 View Post
          Well, this isn't typical. I'm doing this on a budget so I bought Costco-sized portions of sirloin steaks for $4.50/lb and a top round roast for $3.50/lb. I sliced the roast into steaks, which form the bulk of my diet. I live in the DC suburbs and meat is absurdly expensive here. Over at Whole Foods your garden variety NY Strip is going to be $10-15/lb, sirloin is usually $8/lb, and high end cuts like filet are as much as $18-20/lb.

          Honestly, if you know how to cook a steak you can make a Costco sirloin taste pretty damn amazing. Salt liberally and let it sit out a few hours and then cook it sous vide, searing with a propane torch. Yeah, it takes time and effort but you can't argue with the results. My cheap steaks taste damn good.
          Ah right, that's a good idea! So with the roast, you just fry them like you would with normal steaks?

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          • Originally posted by canuck416 View Post
            I totally understand. Perhaps the idea of 4 weeks is a bit daunting. Why not give it a try for 3 or 4 days and see how you feel.
            Hmmm good idea. Then I wouldn't feel so vege-deprived hahaha.

            Perhaps next week I will... I'll eat the rest of my veges over the weekend.
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            • You can eat all the veggies you like on your refeed days Nixxy :-)
              If you're interested in my (very) occasional updates on how I'm working out and what I'm eating click here.

              Originally posted by tfarny
              If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

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              • Ouch, up 3 lb. I will do better on my next carb-reefed day. I know I went overboard on fat yesterday and carbs of course.
                Hope the water weight will go down quickly.

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                • Originally posted by nixxy View Post
                  There's a part of me that just can't deal with the idea of not eating vegetables!!
                  I eat steak, eggs and greens.

                  Works just fine.

                  Less than 30g net carbs, in ketosis. I'd rip someone's head off if I didn't eat a few green carbs a day.

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                  • In case anyone is looking for a new way to have eggs:



                    Brilliant.
                    I'm a weak man...If I give myself a few feet of leeway, I burst through all of my prohibitions.

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                    • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                      I agree with Mark about not letting the perfect become the enemy of the good. But grass fed clearly does have an advantage. It is one thing to say that, for me, at this time, the additional benefits of grass fed are not worth the premium price. It is another to say, "Yay, Walmart beef!" and "anybody who spends money of grass fed meat is an idiot". That was Mr. ZIOH's stand. Then, after getting the USWellness Meats link on his page, his policy changed to "Well, of course, it is a matter of personal preference and I would never try to influence what my readers buy." Maybe USWM gave him a lifetime supply of grass fed pemmican and he figured out what he had been missing.

                      And, about eating nose to tail, he pulled out a quote from the arctic explorer Steffanson about the Eskimos throwing liver to their dogs to justify the fact that he (Mr. ZIOH) doesn't like liver. I read that quote to mean the exact opposite. In a climate where the health of your dogs means survival for the people giving them the liver means it was highly prized, not considered unfit for humans.
                      Yeah, "doctrine" could change over there, for sure I try not to rag on them, there are some good folks over there, of course, some have gone, too.

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                      • Originally posted by ajm422 View Post
                        In case anyone is looking for a new way to have eggs:

                        Brilliant.
                        Wow, now that is something I have never heard of before. Worth a try for some variety.
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                        • Originally posted by canuck416 View Post
                          I understand the cost limitations of eating pastured meat but I do everything I can to ensure my meat is pastured, organic and local if possible. I feel the same about eggs, try to ensure they are from free range chickens, are not fed soy products or anti biotics and are from local farms. I believe the level of toxins, use of antibiotics and growth hormones makes most of the typical meat products in grocery stores unhealthy to eat.
                          I like to pretend the growth hormones are making my biceps bigger

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                          • Originally posted by moon7 View Post
                            Ouch, up 3 lb. I will do better on my next carb-reefed day. I know I went overboard on fat yesterday and carbs of course.
                            Hope the water weight will go down quickly.
                            No worries, this is a completely normal weight gain after a refeed. It will quickly drop over the next two days and by the end of the week you will be down from your low point weight that you recorded just before your refeed day.
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                            • Originally posted by Misabi View Post
                              Free range eggs are still expensive sadly, at NZS$5.60 per dozen if your lucky (in a super market). Right next to trays of 30 cage eggs for almost the same price.

                              In fact, my food bill for this week came to approx $80, with the eggs costing as much as, if not more than the steak.
                              I do get my eggs free range; I live in a fairly rural area of Texas, and there are a number of families that raise their own chickens, and let the little devils run free, and eat bugs and whatnot. We get them for $2 a dozen.

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                              • I am little concerned about doing a carb refeed...I'm in my 2nd week of S&E and haven't done one yet...I was wondering if it was necessary...or is it just in there so people can have a break/indulge carb cravings...what does the refeed do for you?

                                I'm not sick of S&E and am worried that a refeed will leave me vulnerable to overeating either that day or the next...how do people feel the day after a carb up? I so a 20/4 IF will I be hungrier the day after? I can't have grains or starch so my refeed was going to be a roasted chicken (white meat only, no skin), a bunch of steamed asparagus, steamed cauliflower and a couple squares (3-4) of lindt 90 melted with strawberries...but if I don't "need" to do this to assist with fat loss, I might skip it...afraid it might be hard to shut the door once I open it if you know what I mean...

                                so...what do you all think? why do we carb up and is it necessary...I'm leanish and looking to drop those last 5lbs/3-4%bf

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