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    Hi!

    My wonderful hunk of a husband turns 40 today, and his party is tomorrow. There will be cake! Of course!

    I'm only in my 2nd week of PB, have had many major improvements in digestion, sleep, energy levels, etc. I've also lost 4 lbs. If I have some cake and party foods tomorrow, will it make me feel like total crap? Could I possibly count it as a "re-feed", since I haven't done that at all since I started? Will it affect my weight loss negatively?

    I understand you guys can't tell me for sure what my body will do, but your opinions are appreciated. I made the cake, I want to be able to eat some too, but I won't if it's really not a good idea.

    Thanks!
    SW: 120 lbs
    CW: 116 lbs
    GW: 105 lbs
    I think I can, I think I can, I think I can...

  • #2
    I did that once... and it so wasn't worth it. I got pretty sick. BUT when it was my birthday I just made a Primal friendly cake (indulgence one a birthday) U can find them on any paleo/primal recipe blog. Gluten Free, Grain Free, High Protein and Healthy - Elana's Pantry

    you can enjoy! and I still feel good!

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    • #3
      I have done this many times, and every time I have I never feel like it was worth it. That being said, if you went through all the trouble to make the cake (as I did yesterday for my twins 2nd birthday) I would probably have some cake if it were me (and I did), lol!!! As far as "party foods", can those be paleo or primal friendly instead of off plan foods? Or maybe make an extra dish or two that you can have that will keep you on plan, just to minimize the damage if you choose to have cake. Can't say for sure that off plan foods will have any affect on you now. For some folks it doesn't. But for most I think eating off plan usually ends up being unpleasant, or a regret.

      I paid dearly this morning for the cake I had last night. I woke from my sleep this morning with horrible stomach pains, and then it ran right through me later in the morning, if you know what I mean. I don't regret the cake, but I wish that I had not eaten it just because of how it made me feel.

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      • #4
        Also if you do end up having a lot of carbs, don't be surprised to see the scale go up. It will be from water retention.

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        • #5
          Primal isn't a prison sentence. You're allowed to live once in a while Part of transitioning to this lifestyle is redefining the habits, rituals and traditions that are so ingrained. Over time you'll maybe be able to separate the celebration from the food. Until then, if you want cake? Eat cake. Experience the consequences. Maybe you'll suffer, maybe you won't.

          You might be amazed at how unappealing cake tastes. It's been over a year, and my taste buds and body know the difference between quality food and shitty food and fake food-like products.
          Sandra
          *My obligatory intro

          There are no cheat days. There are days when you eat primal and days you don't. As soon as you label a day a cheat day, you're on a diet. Don't be on a diet. ~~ Fernaldo

          DAINTY CAN KISS MY PRIMAL BACKSIDE. ~~ Crabcakes

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          • #6
            Maybe eat a proper meal before the party then eat a half-slice of cake to be sociable and experience the flavor. Refined foods are doubly hazardous when we try to "fill up" on them.

            I think associating a refeed with sugar and wheat is a bad precedent--just call it a celebration and enjoy. Nobody's weight trajectory is determined by a single meal.
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            • #7
              I pig out on party foods every now and then. Sometimes it's worth it. Sometimes I'm disappointed. Sometimes I wake up 2lbs lighter, sometimes 2 lbs heavier. It's never been more than a blip in my weight loss trajectory. I don't sweat it. Knowing which foods are good for me and which are not so good for me doesn't mean I'm forbidden to ever again make a bad choice. Over time you will probably feel less and less inclined to make bad choices. That seems to be pretty typical.
              50yo, 5'3"
              SW-195
              CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
              GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sandra in BC View Post
                You might be amazed at how unappealing cake tastes. It's been over a year, and my taste buds and body know the difference between quality food and shitty food and fake food-like products.
                omg that is totally happening to me too! it's crazy how things started really tasting different to me.. or maybe they tasted that way all along.. *gulp*

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
                  I pig out on party foods every now and then. Sometimes it's worth it. Sometimes I'm disappointed. Sometimes I wake up 2lbs lighter, sometimes 2 lbs heavier. It's never been more than a blip in my weight loss trajectory. I don't sweat it. Knowing which foods are good for me and which are not so good for me doesn't mean I'm forbidden to ever again make a bad choice. Over time you will probably feel less and less inclined to make bad choices. That seems to be pretty typical.
                  This makes so much sense.
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                  • #10
                    There is a good chance you will feel like crap. But I completely agree with Sandra: this lifestyle isn't meant to be a prison. It's about being as healthy AND happy as you possibly can be. As long as you go into it with your eyes open, you should enjoy the day. 40 is a happy milestone! It might also be a good experience in showing you what the consequences of eating unhealthy now are. I indulge on my kids' and hubbys bdays too, and i know exactly what to expect several hours and the next day. I'm fine with it though; there are only going to be so many birthdays with a Batman or Strawberry Shortcake cake, after all!

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                    • #11
                      It's never negatively affected me -- BUT, i don't have any health issues, didn't become primal/paleo to lose weight, and have no known sensitivities beyond dairy.

                      i even had a non-primal cupcake today followed by gluten free ANZAC biscuits. And last night, I ate pasta because we were invited to dinner.

                      No problems today, though. Perhaps modestly bloated, if anything.

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                      • #12
                        To be honest, I think it is the opposite: primal is freedom, junk is prison.
                        Where I live (Denmark), it seems that EVERY celebration must be accompanied with tons of junk (and I mean the junkiest junk like ultra-processed industrial cakes the package label of which would give you pimples and stomach cramps at first glance, candies and sodas, etc). So for me, it is an absolute nogo, I don't care to not be eating like the others (sick) people in the room. If I am asked, I just say I don't eat crap, thank you. People can give me odd looks, I don't give a crap. The freedom is to not fall for group pressure, especially that YOU KNOW that this junk is absolute crap. You are excused if you don't, but you DO know.

                        For celebrations which I manage myself, I cook and bake everything. People enjoying my stuff NEVER complain and go back home feeling GREAT!

                        Isn't it crazy that we should celebrate with sick shit food ?? what kind of tradition is that ?? "Oh, you're turning 40! Let's binge on toxins!! Yeah, great idea!"
                        Last edited by dkJames; 04-25-2013, 02:13 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Your marriage is more important than your diet, if only for one day. Have a slice of cake, it's not going to make you gain a pound in fat unless you eat half of it. The temporary weight gain will be water weight, remember that.

                          And no, it doesn't count as a refeed unless you've been VLC.
                          F 28/5'4/100 lbs

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                          • #14
                            Eat the cake, if you want to. One day shouldn't derail anything. Go back to primal the next day. Remember it's okay to do 80/20 - make the party your 20%. If you're hosting the party add some primal foods. I eat cake at my grandchildren's birthdays. It doesn't taste as good as it used to.

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                            • #15
                              Since you're just starting out I wanted to point out that a refeed should not be used as an excuse to eat whatever crap you want. Refeeds are about replenishing carbs and it makes the most sense to do it as healthfully as possible (tubers, maybe some white rice, etc.) and only if you've been very low carb.

                              That being said, if you want the cake, eat the cake! It's not a huge deal and it doesn't mean that you're failing at being primal. As Robb Wolf has said, this is not a religion. You aren't going to hell for making a choice to eat some junk. Enjoy it, move on, and don't sweat it. I also wouldn't weigh yourself for a couple days. You'll likely gain some temporary water weight and there's no sense in obsessing about a blip on the scale.

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