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  • #31
    He seems to believe that less sat fat will mean less stress on your body and faster adaptation to a fat burning metabolism.

    I dropped dairy after reading his book just out of curiosity, and lost 6 lbs in a week. Since weightloss is not your goal, you may not need to lower sat fat.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
      He seems to believe that less sat fat will mean less stress on your body and faster adaptation to a fat burning metabolism.

      I dropped dairy after reading his book just out of curiosity, and lost 6 lbs in a week. Since weightloss is not your goal, you may not need to lower sat fat.
      How much dairy were you eating? I am having heavy cream in my coffee, but that's pretty much it for dairy unless I have a bit of cheese occasionally. I can't eat coconut milk, and have to really limit coconut meat because it gives me bad digestive upset. Is coconut oil a sat fat?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by richard View Post
        Do you know how much protein is contained in bone broth? Obviously it varies a lot.
        Bone broth which sets up about the consistency of jello contains about 1/3 of an ounce of gelatin in a 2 cup portion. If it is thick but fluid, maybe half that. If it is hard and solid, then twice that.

        So it's not all that much protein you're getting if you are consuming normal portions and it's not supplemented or cooked down.

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        • #34
          coconut oil is sat fat, for sure. But it has a lot of medium chain fatty acids in it that are believed to have some kind of advantages, not sure what exactly at the moment. (MCT oil you buy is capric and caprylic acid extracted from coconut oil.) One thing, coconut oil's caprylic acid is highly fungicidal and effective against candida apparently, FWIW.

          I'm eating only butter, no other dairy than that. I had some cheese three or four days ago, raw milk cheese, and I think I am mildly intolerant of cheese so it will be an occasional treat. I find goat and lamb's milk cheese easier to tolerate.

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          • #35
            an under appreciated fat is red palm oil, which is highly saturated. I bought some at Whole Foods but there are a ton of brands you can buy. It is unfiltered and contains a lot of tocotrienols, variations of vitamin E, and I think is very healthy. I made a homemade mayo with it and I use that to add fat into food. I'm having a small bit of flounder, maybe 40g of flounder (much less protein) and I'll slather it with the mayo and gain fat that way.

            Red palm oil doesn't seem to have the digestive issues that coconut oil has. I don't have serious issues with coconut oil and am slowly increasing my consumption of it in my tea.

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            • #36
              I don't have issues with coconut oil, I tolerate that really well. It's just other coconut products that I seem to have an issue with. I occasionally use butter, but not very often, so most of my fat will probably come from animal products and coconut oil.

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              • #37
                I was eating 1-2 oz of cheese plus about a 1/4 cup of heavy cream every day.

                I agree with the value of coconut products and did not give them up.
                Last edited by Pebbles67; 04-25-2013, 09:56 AM.
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                • #38
                  I don't have issues with coconut oil, I tolerate that really well. It's just other coconut products that I seem to have an issue with. I occasionally use butter, but not very often, so most of my fat will probably come from animal products and coconut oil.

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                  • #39
                    i am finding it very hard to eat low protein , i average 105 g a day , well its because if im not going to eat carbs(20g or so is like nothing) then where would i get solid food from i wont be eating sticks of butter thats just disgusting and not satisfing , could u guys plz give a sample of what u might eat in a day , thank u(trying to get in ketosis for the last two weeks but just nt getting there as the ketostick is always negative, i think it is the PROTEIN, bec my carbs are averaging maximum of 25g a day)

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by egyption grok View Post
                      i am finding it very hard to eat low protein , i average 105 g a day , well its because if im not going to eat carbs(20g or so is like nothing) then where would i get solid food from i wont be eating sticks of butter thats just disgusting and not satisfing , could u guys plz give a sample of what u might eat in a day , thank u(trying to get in ketosis i think it is the PROTEIN, bec my carbs are averaging maximum of 25g a day)
                      I just ate an avocado with a lot of home made mayonaise. I drink tea with a tablespoon or two of butter and some coconut oil dissolved in it and it is delicious. That is how I go through the day. Also some bone broth with fat in it.

                      I'm finishing a snack of salami (no nitrite) which is loaded with fat, 6g protein, 9g of fat. It is basically my lunch. It's a small portion. I'm not really very hungry anyway.

                      I might have a small portion of meat with extra butter in it for dinner.

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                      • #41
                        This morning I had coffee with heavy cream, and two hardboiled eggs. For lunch I had one cup of the chocolate chili from Well Fed on top of baby spinach, and added one tbsp. of coconut oil to it. I might have a snack of blackberries with heavy cream a little later if I get hungry. Tonight I'll have meat and veg sautéed in coconut oil most likely. My meat servings are usually about 4 oz or so.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by richard View Post
                          yeah, I will have to re-examine that fiber. I've been using it since 1990 and it's been super helpful.
                          It can also be addicting in that your digestive system develops a dependence on having it there to be able to function. Not good.
                          Originally posted by richard View Post
                          Do you know how much protein is contained in bone broth? Obviously it varies a lot.
                          Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                          Bone broth which sets up about the consistency of jello contains about 1/3 of an ounce of gelatin in a 2 cup portion. If it is thick but fluid, maybe half that. If it is hard and solid, then twice that.
                          Interesting. But isn't there some actual meat derived protein in it too, not just the gelatin? I guess this would vary by the batch depending on the meatiness of the bones involved.
                          Originally posted by egyption grok View Post
                          (trying to get in ketosis for the last two weeks but just nt getting there as the ketostick is always negative, i think it is the PROTEIN, bec my carbs are averaging maximum of 25g a day)
                          Please do not put all your faith in ketostix. They are often not very accurate. They measure the ketones being excreted in your urine but, if you have become well adapted to using ketones as you body fuel, you will be burning them up, not excreting them. The only accurate measure is a blood test meter like the ones diabetic people use. If you are under 25 a day though, I don't think you need to be sticking your fingers.
                          Originally posted by richard View Post
                          coconut oil is sat fat, for sure. But it has a lot of medium chain fatty acids in it that are believed to have some kind of advantages, not sure what exactly at the moment. (MCT oil you buy is capric and caprylic acid extracted from coconut oil.) One thing, coconut oil's caprylic acid is highly fungicidal and effective against candida apparently, FWIW.
                          The advantage of MCTs are that they burn off quicker instead of being stored as fat. CO is awesome stuff. I use coconut cream in my Teeccino.

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                          • #43
                            There might be other soluble protein fractions as well. I'm not a researcher, but a cook. Soup that sets up like jello will have more body when hot. Soup with 1 ounce gelatin per 2 cups of broth with have a very thick, rich texture. I'm not sure how anyone without a lab could determine what other proteins are in a soup.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                              There might be other soluble protein fractions as well. I'm not a researcher, but a cook. Soup that sets up like jello will have more body when hot. Soup with 1 ounce gelatin per 2 cups of broth with have a very thick, rich texture. I'm not sure how anyone without a lab could determine what other proteins are in a soup.
                              I have a pot going right now that is the consistency of warm honey. Smells heavenly. When I put mine in the fridge, it comes out like knox blox, you can slice it and pick it up.

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                              • #45
                                Back in the old days, when someone was making a long journey, the cook would make portable soup for them. It was highly gelatinous. Cut into pieces, it was dried at room temperature until hard. The traveler could dissolve chunks in hot water for sustenance.

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