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  • Originally posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Oh the peeing is just dropping water weight/electrolyte balancing. I think women may have this more than men due to our hormonal profile.. I started vlc less than a week ago, so I expected this. It will slow down soon.

    Thanks, Richard! I do fine with dark chocolate, and it is one of my few carb sources, since I am FODMAPS intolerant. I only do 30 g/day, in any case.
    ah, yes, this is a very diuretic way of eating for awhile.

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    • Originally posted by Dragonfly View Post
      Are you supplementing Magnesium, too? I can't remember from your previous posts. Curious what your blood level is with that much D.
      I am supplementing a small amount of magnesium citrate, probably 200mg (I use a powder.)

      I haven't had a test done in many years.

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      • Originally posted by richard View Post
        I am supplementing a small amount of magnesium citrate, probably 200mg (I use a powder.)

        I haven't had a test done in many years.
        I generally recommend 400-600 mg to all of my clients, especially that amount of D. Unless they eat a lot of seafood or nuts.
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        • why does high D3 supplementation call for more magnesium?

          I find that much gives me too loose a stool for sure.

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          • Magnesium is a cofactor for D3 and most folks are deficient in it. Mag citrate has a bigger laxative effect than Glycinate or Malate, so you could switch if you think you need more.

            Read the first answer in this link for a decent explanation: Vitamin D Without Magnesium = Weird Side Effects? - PaleoHacks.com

            And I think high D3 supplementation without testing is not a great idea long-term. Vit. A and D3 compete for some of the same receptors and if you have a D3 blood level at a much higher than a physiological range, I think you are creating an unnecessary imbalance for your body.
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            • thanks -- maybe I'll up my magnesium a bit.

              I do take A sometimes, and K3 every day.

              Some days I skip D3, some days I take 5000 or 10,000 units, somedays 50,000 units.

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              • Cravings


                Last night I went to a party. I was strict with VLC. I ate some beef, a bit of chicken, and some delicious home made dip my wife made that was loaded with cream cheese, artichokes and spinach.

                I didn't cheat but I ate maybe 40g or protein.

                Today I had much greater cravings this morning for more food. But I ate 2 butter eggs, butter tea, and a bunch of asparagus salad that I made with olive oil. And some macadamia nuts when I was still hungry.

                Anyway, do you notice much higher cravings if you have greater amounts of protein than the "deck of cards" size portions?

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                • The same day I ate more carbs recently, I also ate more protein, so hard to tell.

                  I made a chocolate cream jello yesterday. Pretty good and very satiating.
                  Was hoping for more of a pudding without having to cook, but I will have to reduce the gelatin next time.
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                  • yeah, I'm not eating any food that is like a baked good or dessert. It triggers me too much...

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                    • I hear you, Richard! This is so low sugar, that it doesn't trigger me, fortunately. I am avoiding any baked goods, though.

                      B: eggs cooked in lard, sour cream and salsa. Tea w/ cream, dark chocolate
                      D: burger with Dubliner cheese and spinach, kombucha, dark chocolate
                      S: chocolate cream jello
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                      • lunch was an avocado with a bit of homemade kimchi.

                        A few nuts here and there...

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                        • Originally posted by Dragonfly View Post
                          S: chocolate cream jello
                          Hi Dragonfly,
                          Do you have a recipe for the chocolate cream jello?

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                          • Originally posted by something4me View Post
                            Hi Dragonfly,
                            Do you have a recipe for the chocolate cream jello?
                            Lol! I just threw it together. Let's see... 2 rounded tablespoons gelatin powder, dissolve in sm amt of cold water, add 1.5 c hot water and stir, whisk in grated dark chocolate to taste, sweetener to taste (if needed), add 2 cups heavy cream and mix. Refrigerate.
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                            • last night I made pastured pork butt, braised, pulled-pork style, with a salad. The pulled pork used a sauce that I made. Since I had guests I used sugar. Not a lot of sugar, probably 3 tablespoons, over a lot of pulled pork, so I doubt I got much sugar. I didn't have any unusual feelings or cravings.

                              This morning I'm on my second cup of butter tea. I will probably fast until the afternoon.

                              BTW, this pastured pork is not ideal. It's far tastier and it's humanely raised and slaughtered. The pigs live in the woods. But I can tell from the fat, they get most of their calories from the farmer's daily feed of crap -- corn, molasses, some minerals. Yuck.

                              I will order from someone else in the future. And I got taken to the cleaners -- I think I overpaid and got short changed. Which I have found is very common in dealing over the years with farmers and processors. You often get short changed "thumb on the scale" type stuff.

                              But my major complaint is that the fat is very similar to factory farm pork fat. I will try Slankers next. They say they do NOT feed their pigs grains at all.

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                              • Richard, since going primal, I have been eating less pork meat than usual. It was not a conscious choice but between beef / lamb and fish, an occasional chicken or duck here and there, my pork consumption is close to 0. I do eat bacon once in a while but pork meat is close to nil. Funny how things change unnoticed for some time until you read about what others are eating

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