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    I've just started supplementing Betaine HCL for suspected low stomach acid. Wasn't sure of the protocol, so I'm following the info below - do you guys think that sounds about right?

    Eat a meal that contains at least 15-20grams of protein (about 4-6ounces of meat).
    Start by taking 1 pill (650mg of less) of Betaine HCL during the beginning of the meal
    Finish the meal as normal and observe your body for any changes in feeling associated with the stomach and belly button area. Things to look for: heaviness, hotness, burning, or other GI distress.
    Stay at this dosage of 1 pill for another day of meals with protein and if you don’t notice anything on the 3rd day, try 2 pills.
    Stay there for another day and then try 3 pills.
    Keep increasing the number of pills taken with each meal until you notice some GI discomfort described in step #3.
    When this happens, you will know your ideal Betaine HCL dosage is 1 pill less. For example, if you felt the discomfort going from 5 pills to 6 pills, then 5 pills is your proper dosage for a normal meal.
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    I started with a dosage of two 325mg tabs, but haven't had any burning or anything so I'm assuming I need to build to more. I have noticed that it makes me burp though - does anyone know what that means?
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  • #2
    I am supplementing with Hcl - my trainer/nutritionist just gave me the first batch of pills and told to "test" myself in a similar way. He told me to do the test a bit differently though - increase the amount of pills every meal and watch out for burning. I took up to seven pills and never experienced any burning at all. I then started taking 3 pills per meal (higher dose pills, roughly the same as those 7 test pills). Since I have been able to reduce it to 2 pills (after 9 months or so) - after I started feeling the burn when taking 3 pills.
    I don't know wanything about burping though (except that it's not very pleaseant to burp after taking hcl)

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    • #3
      My naturopath advised I take betaine HCL + pepsin in this manner. I was given the "up one pill at each meal" protocol, but it wouldn't do any harm to go more slowly than that.

      I tried it multiple times, eating different types of diets, combining it with other digestive enzymes / supplements, and each time it made me worse. I never felt the "warming" sensation, but my stomach bloated (more than usual...) hard as a rock and felt sore (as though I'd spent the day doing crunches). I can't recall if I experienced burping, though. I don't doubt that I have low stomach acid, but my gut was so seriously f-ed up that I think the acid irritated it? This is my hypothesis. I don't think I have too much stomach acid... The consensus nowadays is that that's pretty rare... Anyway, has this happened to anyone? Perhaps after 8 months primal and taking other measures to heal my gut I should try again?
      Is it weird in here, or is it just me?

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      • #4
        I just started taking the stuff a few weeks ago, and I started at 2 pill, and have since gone to 3, around 1500 mgs. If its a small meal (3 eggs, 2 bacon) I take two, if it's much larger I take 3, and if it's a MEGA MEAL I take 4. I've definitely noticed improvements in digestion since I started taking them though.

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        • #5
          yb have you looked into apple cider vinegar? It doesn't make sense (since it's an acid itself) but I keep reading positive things about it.

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          • #6
            I am up to 8 pills a meal but still don't feel any side effects - do I keep taking more at each meal?

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            • #7
              are you self-diagnosing like the op? do you know for certain this is your problem? have you tried any elimination protocols instead? have you tried other methods to heal your gut? gelatin? bone broth? fermented foods?
              As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

              – Ernest Hemingway

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              • #8
                Betaine HCL for low stomach acid

                I don't have a diagnosis or issues at all

                I fast all day and eat at night. One large meal

                I assumed supplementing with B hcl would help digestion and keep my gut healthy

                Thanks


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                • #9
                  Suggestion - If you have good cause to believe you have low stomach acid, take a careful look at your salt intake and be sure it is adequate. Sometimes, our primal avoidance of processed foods and modern bias against added salt can leave us deficient. Having adequate stomach acid is dependent on salt.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by fkjr2 View Post
                    I don't have a diagnosis or issues at all

                    I fast all day and eat at night. One large meal

                    I assumed supplementing with B hcl would help digestion and keep my gut healthy

                    Thanks


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                    you're taking something to cure something you don't have?

                    gut-healthy foods include gelatin, resistant starch and fermented foods.
                    As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

                    – Ernest Hemingway

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
                      you're taking something to cure something you don't have?

                      gut-healthy foods include gelatin, resistant starch and fermented foods.
                      ^This


                      HCL Betaine is a powerful supplement and shouldn't be taken if you don't need it.


                      If you are just trying to ensure a long-term healthy gut, take probiotics daily. And listen to Noodle's suggestions

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