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    I've been tracking my food with cronometer these days to make sure I'm not missing on any nutrition. When I see I didn't get enough of X, I just eat that food. I feel like my diet is getting more balanced, less lean protein, more starch, more seafood, etc. My mood and energy have improved as well since adding starch.

    I posted before about veggies making me bloated and constipated. So I cut down on leafies and cruciferous veggies, and replaced them with beets, sweet potatoes, potatoes, pumpkin, gourds, etc. Still I get gassy. Sweet potato and potato make me very gassy.

    I take probiotics (greek yogurt, kefir) a few times a week or so. Occasionally I juice green leafy veggies to avoid the fiber. But if I take away veggies and tubers from meals, what else can I eat with meat/fish?

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    Avocados are good with anything. Mushrooms maybe? I can't really suggest not eating vegetables. How much dairy do you do?

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    • #3
      I eat both avocados and mushrooms regularly.

      Not much dairy now. I used to crave milk/cheese before, but since tracking what I'm eating and consciously changing some foods, I stopped craving. I know dairy makes me bloated, but not as much as fiber does.

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      • #4
        Since you do starches, maybe try some white rice?

        While not really about gas in particular, whenever I have any stomach/digestive issues (or just want a nice warm relaxing drink before bed) I have some tea of a blend of chamomile, peppermint and ginger, with a teaspoon of raw honey. Feels good.

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        • #5
          Uncomfortably painful gas, or just, you know, more tooting than you'd like?

          If it's the later, don't worry about it, you're supposed to that. It's not usually an aberration and it's a darn shame society has taught women that it's unladylike to pass gas, often making something that should have been painless (if a little odorous) and natural into a painful experience trying to hold it in.

          You don't want to inhibit gas production too much by avoiding foods that make you flatulent, because that also means you're starving the very same gut flora you're going to all the trouble to introduce with probiotics. Potatoes have a lot of resistant starch, something that good bacteria can thrive on. Thriving bacteria also means more bacterial waste products which means more gas. It's the smelly circle of life.

          Also, if your intestinal flora is "in shape" it can more easily handle that fiber that's been bloating you.
          Last edited by Croak; 04-04-2013, 09:47 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Croak View Post
            Uncomfortably painful gas, or just, you know, more tooting than you'd like?

            If it's the later, don't worry about it, you're supposed to that. It's not usually an aberration and it's a darn shame society has taught women that it's unladylike to pass gas, often making something that should have been painless (if a little odorous) and natural into a painful experience trying to hold it in.

            You don't want to inhibit gas production too much by avoiding foods that make you flatulent, because that also means you're starving the very same gut flora you're going to all the trouble to introduce with probiotics. Potatoes have a lot of resistant starch, something that good bacteria can thrive on. Thriving bacteria also means more bacterial waste products which means more gas. It's the smelly circle of life.

            Also, if your intestinal flora is "in shape" it can more easily handle that fiber that's been bloating you.
            So you're saying that gas is normal? I assume I'm not digesting fiber well.

            The gas is not painful, but not comfortable. Usually comes together with constipation. I can live with the occasional gas because I enjoy veggies. However, I control fiber intake because straining too hard from bulky poops exacerbates hemorrhoids.

            My fiber intake averages around 25-30g daily. I have noticed some days I get gassier than others, and has more to do with certain veggies than amount of fiber.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by peppermint View Post
              Since you do starches, maybe try some white rice?

              While not really about gas in particular, whenever I have any stomach/digestive issues (or just want a nice warm relaxing drink before bed) I have some tea of a blend of chamomile, peppermint and ginger, with a teaspoon of raw honey. Feels good.
              I have white rice sometimes, but I always think it's just empty calories and very easy to overeat. Hence, I was trying out potatoes, sweet potatoes, etc.

              That tea sounds nice.. off to try some tonight

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              • #8
                I second the mushrooms; I've been eating them lots lately, and they are delicious braised in a savory broth. How about cooking your veggies? I always cook mine, screw the nutritional breakdown, I prefer my veggies cooked, and I've never had gas problems. Other veggie suggestions I have are summer squashes like zucchini, and leeks.
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                • #9
                  Since we are on the topic I would note that since going primal my gas has made a significant decrease in how bad it's odor is. Not sure if this is something to chalk up as a minor win, but I take it as such. It's the same for deodorant. I am down to not wearing any of the nasty drugstore stuff and just apply some essential oils to combat my more minor fragrance now

                  I would also toss out the idea of some sort of fasting. Maybe instead of tweaking foods just give your digestive system a break or frequent breaks. It also took me a couple trials with probiotics brands before I felt differences. Also leafy herbs are cleansing...parsley cilantro salads with lemon juice and olive oil are amazing and go with everything

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                  • #10
                    I know you are finding that the starches correlate with the gas, but perhaps try another form of probiotic. Try a supplement or saurkraut, something dairy-free.
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                    • #11
                      You may want to get your magnesium levels checked. I have low magnesium, and if I forget to take my supplements, I have gas and constipation issues.

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                      • #12
                        I'm of the belief that you are not SUPPOSED to have gas. The only reason you have gas is because food has moved into your large intestine without being fully digested and absorbed by the small intestine. The only time I have issues is when I eat anything wheat or processed foods of any sort. There is a school of thought that says that the correct combinations of foods also plays an important role.

                        Don't flame me, but I happen to think some of it makes sense. There is an author named Natalia Rose who, yes, is a raw foods nutritionist, but her take on combining foods makes sense and I see what she means when I apply it to my own life. The concept behind it is if you combine foods that incompatible, then your body has to produce different enzymes to deal with those foods, thereby cancelling each other out. I have NO scientific proof of this, just my own N=1 applications.

                        You've got starches, fleshes, nuts/seeds/dried fruit, veggies, and then fresh fruit. For the most part, the only things that combine at all are veggies and one other combination.

                        Fresh fruit should only ever be eaten by itself. I only eat fresh fruit first thing in teh morning. If I eat anything that is fruity after I've already had other types of food, I better be in a room by myself. Eating fruit on top of other foods inhibits the digestion of the fruit and it just ferments. For me, this is bad. I've done it. It's horrible and uncomfortable and no one better light a match in a 1 mile radius.

                        Avocado combines as a starch - not a fruit or veggie, so when I put avocado on my salad with chicken (thereby mixing a starch with a flesh which shouldn't be done) I will get massive gas which I don't do with just the chicken and the salad.

                        I tried to explain this to my brother, the self-proclaimed methane factory - and he completely shot down my statement before I even got a chance to explain it. I just looked at him and said, well I'm not the one who's creating all the greenhouse gases, now, am I?

                        I know it sounds crazy and there are plenty on this board who may just shoot me down, but for me it works and I rarely have issues unless I combine something wrong. Or eat onions. Those do it no matter what. Love those little suckers, but they don't love me back.

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                        • #13
                          I have IBS with one of my main symptoms being a lot of gas (unfortunately smelly). I have been doing daily IFing, and it's gotten almost all the way better. I think the nice long break my digestive system gets helps. Digestive enzymes helped a lot too!

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                          • #14
                            My boyfriend gets gas from a lot of different things, including vegetables and oils. He chooses to eat them anyway and rides it out.

                            I used to get gas a lot, but having given up gluten, beans, and cooked dairy, it only happens with overcooked onions, and I'm not giving them up.

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                            • #15
                              Since I've been doing ketogenic eating, I rarely get gas anymore. Cutting out gluten and dairy was the first step but I still had the occasional bloating and I think it was from certain vegetables and too much fruit. I still eat alot of vegetables but its mostly dark, leafy greens like spinach and kale, tomatoes, romaine, black olives, avocados, hearts of palms, carrots, mushrooms and sometimes broccoli.
                              If I do eat broccoli, I don't go overboard on it because it definitely lends to the "rare gas" events.
                              Some of us just have EXTREMELY sensitive digestive systems and it sucks and takes alot of time to find out what needs to be eliminated to control certain issues.

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