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    Has anyone tried eating a potato at bedtime to help depression?

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    For a better understanding of the brain/body/food connection I suggest reading this: Primal Body, Primal Mind: Beyond the Paleo Diet for Total Health and a Longer Life: Nora T. Gedgaudas: 9781594774133: Amazon.com: Books
    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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    • #3
      I don't subscribe to the notion that eating carbohydrates will give you a boost of serotonin and make you happier. I've noticed my own depression and anxiety are intimately tied to the quality of my digestion, but your mileage may vary. Not the world's most helpful response, I know.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Timthetaco View Post
        I don't subscribe to the notion that eating carbohydrates will give you a boost of serotonin and make you happier. I've noticed my own depression and anxiety are intimately tied to the quality of my digestion, but your mileage may vary. Not the world's most helpful response, I know.
        Our guts actually have more neurons in them than our brains do. So it is definitely true that quality of digestion will have a profound impact on mental health.
        "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Timthetaco View Post
          I've noticed my own depression and anxiety are intimately tied to the quality of my digestion.
          I've noticed this too.
          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

          - Ray Peat

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          • #6
            Nope, for me eating carbohydrates, no matter the quality, has not helped with my depression at all. I'm not advocating medication as the ultimate solution, but sometimes pharmaceuticals has its uses.
            F 28/5'4/100 lbs

            "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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            • #7
              You could always try 5-HTP. It acts as an SSRI. I use it sometimes when I have trouble sleeping.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PseudoDiva View Post
                You could always try 5-HTP. It acts as an SSRI. I use it sometimes when I have trouble sleeping.
                That's what I use, but I wasn't going to say anything without further information from the OP.
                Depression Lies

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                • #9
                  Potatoes are actually better than Prozac, they contain Lithium! Lithium is used to treat bi-polar disorder and a known mood stabilizer. Maybe this is why the Potato Hack works so good...


                  The precise amount you eat depends largely on the lithium content in the soil, which can vary widely between different countries and regions. For example, the ground water of northern Chile is particularly lithium rich. However, some plants have a greater propensity for absorbing lithium. Nightshade plants such as peppers, potatoes and tomatoes demonstrate a remarkable tolerance to lithium and can reach a lithium content of up to 1,000 mcg per gram.

                  Read more: Foods High In Lithium | LIVESTRONG.COM

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by healthy11 View Post
                    Has anyone tried eating a potato at bedtime to help depression?

                    If you don't mind giving symptoms of the depression, it would be most helpful.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by otzi View Post
                      Potatoes are actually better than Prozac, they contain Lithium! Lithium is used to treat bi-polar disorder and a known mood stabilizer. Maybe this is why the Potato Hack works so good...
                      I feel like that only makes sense if one has a deficiency in lithium. Bi-polar disorder is not the same as depression and they are not treated the same way.
                      Depression Lies

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
                        Our guts actually have more neurons in them than our brains do. So it is definitely true that quality of digestion will have a profound impact on mental health.
                        I knew the enteric nervous system was called "the second brain" but I was skeptical that there are actually more neurons in the gut than the brain -- ENS has 1/1000th as many neurons as brain; 1/10th as many as the spinal cord. Enteric nervous system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                        I mean it's still really cool

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                        • #13
                          double post
                          Last edited by sjmc; 04-04-2013, 09:41 AM. Reason: oops

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by healthy11 View Post
                            Has anyone tried eating a potato at bedtime to help depression?
                            Serotonin is actually a stress hormone. If your serotonin levels are elevated, your body is stressed. Imagine serotonin as Morphine. If you're given Morphine, it's due to severe physical trauma, but it makes you feel great. If your "Morphine levels are elevated," you're actually feeling really good but we know to have Morphine in our system it's because of a really bad thing. Scientists have it backwards - they think elevated serotonin is good because it makes us feel good, but it actually means we're suffering trauma just like if doctors put us on Morphine it means we have a major injury.

                            If potatoes are making you feel better, it's probably because a lack of carbohydrate is causing an increase in stress hormones. You would probably have better luck with fruit than starch. Starch instantizes is the bloodstream. It's very effective after a workout and centered around a very active lifestyle, but fruit sugar is better for the average person since it's slow-releasing and more constant. Sugar is too demonized in our society while complex carbohydrate is praised. It happens even in Primal/Paleo circles. Starches are becoming acceptable but sugar is still demonized. Sugar is our preferred fuel source - sugar #1, starch #2, fat #3.

                            A potato may help improve your sleep by consuming it two hours before bed though since you'll be falling asleep on the backside of the insulin spike. Fruit may give you energy before bed. Why not just consume more fruit at all times?
                            Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 04-04-2013, 10:00 AM.
                            Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sjmc View Post
                              I knew the enteric nervous system was called "the second brain" but I was skeptical that there are actually more neurons in the gut than the brain -- ENS has 1/1000th as many neurons as brain; 1/10th as many as the spinal cord. Enteric nervous system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                              I mean it's still really cool
                              Ahem... Slightly updated, but, well, barely. Emphasis mine.

                              Think Twice: How the Gut's "Second Brain" Influences Mood and Well-Being: Scientific American

                              Originally posted by Scientific American
                              Technically known as the enteric nervous system, the second brain consists of sheaths of neurons embedded in the walls of the long tube of our gut, or alimentary canal, which measures about nine meters end to end from the esophagus to the anus. The second brain contains some 100 million neurons, more than in either the spinal cord or the peripheral nervous system, Gershon says.
                              "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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