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Soooo....what do you do when you don't want to count anything?!!!

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  • #16
    I just eat till I'm full. I workout a lot (de-stress, combats fibromyalgia and I can't stand to be idle) and stay so busy it doesn't really matter how much but the thoguht process shouldn't necessarily be how much you eat but more importantly what you eat.
    Today is a new day. You will get out of it just what you put into it. If you have made mistakes, there is always another chance for you. And supposing you have tried and failed again and again, you may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call 'Failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down.

    Mary Pickford

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    • #17
      I agree with Choco -- we don't need to slather our food in fat.

      We cook in butter usually (eggs, fish, chickens that are roasting), though some meats are just in a dry pan (beef, venison and pork) because the fat inside renders. We eat nuts, seeds, and avocados. We take cod liver oil as a supplement. We use flax or olive oil on our salad (usually a BAS which is a whole head of lettuce utilizes 2 tb oil across 3 people). I use coconut cream on my frozen berries (a dessert I have about. . . 2-3x a week max). My husband also uses coconut oil on his roasted sweet potatoes (2x week after workouts), and when we roast sweet potato "chips" we use the coconut oil on them to help them crisp up. We also love avocados.

      Even so, our diet is "high fat" though no one would think so to look at how we eat. It's usually about 40-50% fat, and we aren't 'slathering" at all. If anything we just use it as cooking/dressing oil, and there's plenty of fat in normal food.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
        "Cavemen didn't do it" isn't a very good argument. Cavemen also didn't bathe, have supermarkets, modern medical care, electricity, a structured verbal language and mechanical means of transportation. Most neolithic things are better than their paleo counterparts - diet just isn't one of them.
        You're partially right. Except, they did bathe and they did have structured verbal language. They were technologically primitive, not cognitively.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
          Butter has trace nutrients. It is not a whole food. Molasses and maple syrup are both more nutrient-dense than butter, and a faster source of energy than the (extremely small) quantity of SCT's in butter. Furthermore, resistant starch is a better source of butyrate.
          I know Choco never changes his mind (well not in public at least) but other people may be interested in this take on butyrate.
          Resistant starch The Blog of Michael R. Eades, M.D.

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          • #20
            I've never counted calories and never will. I usually maintain a general idea of the amount of protein I'm consuming, but that's it. I find that listening to my body and eating when I'm hungry is the best way to go and produces the most consistent results.

            Jake
            My nutrition/fitness/critical thinking blog:

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            • #21
              Yep I'll pipe in on this one. As I feel this idea (not counting calories) has contributed significantly to my (and my family's) success on this blueprint.

              It is my belief that we each possess a calorie counter that is far superior to any internet database or Iphone app that alot of dieters frequently use, we just can't see it as it is interwoven within our bodies metabolic system. The internet or Iphone cannot account for YOUR individual caloric and macro needs, they also can't account for the day to day change in your caloric needs or many other hidden factors that permeate our calorie intake needs.

              So my strategy is to fill my fridge and cupboards with 100% primal foods and eat them according to the blueprint (eg more meat & veg than dairy & starch). I eat when hungry until full. I am learning to TRUST the signals and responses my body gives me in this regard as I believe it has the best handle on what my food needs are. The only thing my consious mind needs to do is guard against the myriad of poor food choices available (and forced upon me) to me daily, If I can guard against them my body will do the rest.

              Also I find it helps when I reassure myself that I can go for periods without food and also gorge at certain points, this I believe aligns my metabolic systems better to what my genes expect (caveman environment), than providing a consistent 500 calorie deficit per day.
              Last edited by dilberryhoundog; 04-01-2013, 05:55 PM.
              A little primal gem - My Success Story
              Weight lost in 4 months - 29kg (64 lbs)

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              • #22
                I find that when I have bacon and eggs, salads, stir fried vegies, meat, fish and pay just a bit of attention, I don't overeat and stuff myself. If I eat sugar, wheat, bread, baked goods, potatoes, sure as shooting I'm uncomfortable and stuffed when I go to bed. Not very scientific but it has worked and I don't count anything.
                10/2/12: 169 lbs, 37"waist
                Now: low 150's, 33" waist
                Blog: http://paleopathologist.com/

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                • #23
                  Cook a fist-sized piece of meat in fat, put it on the plate, it takes up about 1/3 of said plate, fill the other 2/3 of the plate with vegi. Drink water. Repeat 3x daily.

                  Done, no counting involved.

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                  • #24
                    thankyou for that link sbhikes...and everyone else's contributions too! You're all awesome and inspiring!

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                    • #25
                      Thats unreal dilberryhoundog! and you've lost 25 kg since Dec??? Good on you!!! You from Aus? (just cause I see you are posting in kg's?)

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by beaubutterfly View Post
                        Thats unreal dilberryhoundog! and you've lost 25 kg since Dec??? Good on you!!! You from Aus? (just cause I see you are posting in kg's?)
                        Yeah its awesome, I've lost around 27kgs now (haven't updated my sig) even better is my wife has lost 17kgs in the same time and looks smoking hot now

                        Yep sunny Queensland is where I live too (Gympie, just north of Sunshine Coast), certainly helps with the "get lots of sun" part of the blueprint.

                        But yeah I have taken a pretty relaxed approach to the blueprint, I've had weeks where I didn't drop much and weeks where fat just melted off me. I have no idea how many calories I eat on average or on a daily basis. I just enjoy eating all the good food mark recommends and don't sweat it if i don't eat much or if I eat too much. I also seem to naturally find myself using up all this new found primal energy getting out doors (slow moving) and pushing my limits sometimes (sprinting, lifting heavy) but it also varies week to week (eg I don't have a strict routine). I have a few kids so play comes easy. All this stuff usually leaves me spent by the end of the day so I get a good night sleep most nights. Anyway enough about me.

                        Hope your primal journey is a good one, good to see more aussies on this board. Mind if I friend you, would be great to see how you progress.
                        A little primal gem - My Success Story
                        Weight lost in 4 months - 29kg (64 lbs)

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                        • #27
                          I don't count anything anymore. When I first started trying to cut carbs and up the fat I used nutritional software. I like to think that after doing this for a while I have developed a feel for what I should and shouldn't eat and stay within those parameters. I avoid processed food, starches, grains and sugar, and find that as long as I remain away from them, and keep up my fat content I am eating right.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                            "Cavemen didn't do it" isn't a very good argument. Cavemen also didn't bathe
                            I'm picking nits, but I call shenanigans on this one and

                            Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                            a structured verbal language
                            The Champagne of Beards

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                            • #29
                              Hey dilberryhoundog, can you believe this? I live near Maleny About 2 hours away haha! Yes sunny Qld is good for the old sun rays!
                              Yes please do friend me...that would be awesome. You are inspiring!

                              thanks for your help everyone, that is why I came here, because it is not a strict regime, its human and its simple! Love it! <3

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                                I'm picking nits, but I call shenanigans on this one and
                                I guess it depends what you call a "language." I'm sure cavemen had a series of grunts or verbal signals, but I'm talking something structured - modern language has a dictionary with definitions of words. That's pretty recent.

                                The point I'm trying to make is that neolithic inventions are almost always overwhelmingly good - automobiles, showers, supermarkets, water filtration systems, homes, HVAC, electricity...the list is infinitely long. One of the ONLY bad parts of the neolithic lifestyle is diet. People around here like to use the "Grok didn't ____________" defense, but the truth is NONE OF US would trade with Grok and we are almost entirely better for it.

                                Diet is a rare, rare exception. Grok would kill for electricity, indoor plumbing, HVAC and internet pornography.
                                Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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