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  • #46
    Anyone who thinks grains are not that big a deal needs to re-read this "oldie but goodie".

    Why Grains Are Unhealthy | Mark's Daily Apple

    And parents choose what children eat, not the other way around. Just sayin'.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
      I'm all for modifying cravings. Everyone sometimes wants a treat, so why not just displace what you're eating? Instead of eating cake, I'll eat cheesecake or ice cream. Both can be made relatively healthy, or at least not unhealthy. Just reassociate his bread craving with something else. After all, it's probably just a craving for starch. Potatoes, rice, etc. At 21 months old, it should be easy to reprogram his sense of taste.
      Yes, she wants/needs/craves starch. These days, it's either rice or bread she wants a lot of. She's gotten very active lately, running around, climbing stairs, etc.

      The french fries were a hit, she ate a lot.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by otzi View Post
        When I was growing up, we always ate dinner at the table as a family, saying grace and all that. There was ALWAYS a plate of bread, 8 or 10 pieces for the the 5 of us. It ALWAYS got eaten. Usually spread with margarine (butter was a no-no in the 70's), jam, or used to make sandwiches out of whatever meat was served.

        After leaving home, I ALWAYS ate bread with every meal. I could make a sandwich out of anything. End result, I was eating 6-8 slices of bread a day by the time I was 30.
        I always ate bread growing up as well, and used to eat quite a lot. It was one of the hardest for me to eliminate from my diet.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
          I'm saying if you are fat and need to cut calories, bread is a great thing to eliminate. But if you need the calories and don't have a gluten sensitivity, why is it so bad? I guess the thought of a child, that is not fat, eating bread doesn't bother me. I don't think it is toxic or bad like chicken mcnuggets or something like oreos.
          So far, I guess I consider bread harmless, at least somewhat better than packaged chips, soda, cookies, candy? I'd gotten into arguments with people about not feeding her sweets and treats. It is not always so easy because my family and relatives are traditional Chinese and to openly disagree with them can become disrespectful (even when that's not my intent).

          So instead of saying 'bread is not okay', I'm hoping my daughter will like something else more nutritious then the situation becomes 'she prefers X over bread'.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
            And parents choose what children eat, not the other way around. Just sayin'.
            In theory, yes.

            In practice, it's a bit difficult. She's not old enough to understand what is good for her or not, and just eat what she's offered and go by taste. Everyone loves to offer sweets, candy, etc to kids. When I take these people aside to explain she doesn't eat that stuff, they don't take me seriously. But anyway, most of the time I manage to avoid her getting a taste. The few times she had a bite of cookie or cake (my back was turned, literally), she kept asking for more, and would whine nonstop when I said no. The only way is to not have them around her. Which is difficult outside our home.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Zach View Post
              Your ignorance is why there is an obesity epidemic.
              Now I remember why I had you on ignore.

              Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
              It's irresponsible to raise your children on a diet of unhealthy, processed foods.
              I think that this is the crux of the matter. Is bread a processed food? Is bread unhealthy?

              I would say yes to both, but at the same time I'm not going to make a fuss if my kids eat some when we are in public. I'm just not going to buy it for them

              True story: This week my two eldest spent their pocket money on a packet of biscuits. It's their money and they can do with they like with it. Just like ultimately they have control over the foods they put in their body. It's not worth winning the battle only to lose the war.

              True story #2: This week, friends came over and brought a cake (yes, I ate a piece to be polite). They left the cake, which I gave to the kids. The kids ate the icing but didn't want the cake part. So that went to the chickens
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              • #52
                Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                It's irresponsible to raise your children on a diet of unhealthy, processed foods.
                Originally posted by magicmerl View Post

                I think that this is the crux of the matter. Is bread a processed food? Is bread unhealthy?
                the bread in question contains margarine, so yes it's an unhealthy food. it also causes the child to be constipated, ergo, it makes her unhealthy.
                As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

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                • #53
                  Anyone who thinks grains are not that big a deal needs to re-read this "oldie but goodie".
                  I can find arguments like that against meat and dairy, as well as fruit pretty easily.
                  I do think that in no way should grains make up the base of our diet, ever. And if you need to exclude something to cut calories, grains are at the top of the list. I don't bother with them.

                  But I think in the scheme of things, a piece of bread and butter for most people is a neutral source of calories.Should the kid eat a piece of turkey, or some fruit? Yup. But there are a lot of perfectly healthy people that eat bread.

                  More and more I think that while we all may have issues with individual foods (I have a shellfish allergy, someone else can't have gluten), the real problem with the American diet is how slanted it has become to processed white flour and sugar and how those components dominate so many meals- the bagel at breakfast, the tiny burger on a big bun at lunch, pizza or pasta for dinner, snacks like cookies. It's not that grains are bad; it's that grains as 75% of your calories are.

                  Maybe we do need to overcompensate and keep the bread away from the kid.... but I don't know.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                    I can find arguments like that against meat and dairy, as well as fruit pretty easily.
                    There's a vegetarian forum somewhere out there for you then, what are you still doing here?

                    But I think in the scheme of things, a piece of bread and butter for most people is a neutral source of calories. Should the kid eat a piece of turkey, or some fruit? Yup. But there are a lot of perfectly healthy people that eat bread.
                    You mean they "seem" perfectly healthy. There are a lot of "perfectly healthy" people that smoke cigarrettes. I'm tired of this argument.

                    More and more I think that while we all may have issues with individual foods (I have a shellfish allergy, someone else can't have gluten), the real problem with the American diet is how slanted it has become to processed white flour and sugar and how those components dominate so many meals- the bagel at breakfast, the tiny burger on a big bun at lunch, pizza or pasta for dinner, snacks like cookies. It's not that grains are bad; it's that grains as 75% of your calories are.
                    And you're saying this in the thread where the mom keeps saying that ALL her child will eat is bread? Hate to say you missed the point, but...
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