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  • #16
    Originally posted by kmonastyrsky View Post
    1. My post makes abundantly clear -- ketogenic diets for middle-aged or older women with insufficient amount of proteins cause muscle wasting. What has been repeatedly shown is that young and healthy bodybuilders consuming prodigious amount of protein and near-zero carbs don't run into the problems.

    2. This post was about women, not men or people... If you read any of my works, in appropriate context, they are always gender-neutral (partner, spouse, etc.).
    Any diet lacking in protein will do the same. There's nothing in particular about a ketogenic diet that will cause muscle wasting. And while you may not think that particular part of your post was condescending it was. There is an abundance of "diet" information out there available on the web. I'm sure women make up a large part of your potential audience so if you want to be taken seriously try to be a bit more sensitive and keep the condescending stereotypical bits to a minimum. Just sayin!

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    • #17
      I'm a little late to the party, but it looks like an interesting series and I will read it and report back!

      Jake
      My nutrition/fitness/critical thinking blog:

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      • #18
        I began losing seriously at about age 63 (lost close to 200 lbs), and I need to restrict carbs, as I'm very carb sensitive and can handle no more than 25g a day (often eat less). However, I've always known the importance of protein, and in planning my menus, I first included at least my minimal amount of protein from quality sources.

        I think that the current NK emphasis on limiting protein in favor of fat is negative and will cause more nutritional problems for people who ascribe to that. If people are overeating protein, that's one thing, but given the general lemming quality of the Internet, protein is now taking on negative connotations for these people. And that's ridiculous, IMO.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by emmie View Post
          I began losing seriously at about age 63 (lost close to 200 lbs), and I need to restrict carbs, as I'm very carb sensitive and can handle no more than 25g a day (often eat less). However, I've always known the importance of protein, and in planning my menus, I first included at least my minimal amount of protein from quality sources.

          I think that the current NK emphasis on limiting protein in favor of fat is negative and will cause more nutritional problems for people who ascribe to that. If people are overeating protein, that's one thing, but given the general lemming quality of the Internet, protein is now taking on negative connotations for these people. And that's ridiculous, IMO.
          I tend to agree. I think not getting enough protein is more problematic than a bit too much. Even Nora Gedgoudas' book, which I thought was mostly really good, advocates protein levels that IMO are too low. I prefer Volek and Phinny's recommendations and at 5'7 1/2" I eat around 80g per day, the low end. Some days I'm at around 100g.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by kmonastyrsky View Post
            Paleobird,

            The article you are referring to was about women, not "men" or "people." You know this about that better than most because you commented on it.

            Your remark insulting, chauvinistic, and patronizing. A country I am from is called the United States. And, most likely, I am an American citizen for longer than you lived.
            Wow. I really pushed a button there. And here I was trying to stand up for you.

            I don't know your personal history. I was basing my speculation entirely upon your last name and the fact that English is obviously not your first language. I was trying to get that other poster to give you some slack but she did have a point that you do come across as a male chauvinist and very patronizing toward women. This is probably not your intention but it is something you might want to think about, nonetheless. Multiple women getting that same impression might mean that you need to work on this issue.

            You don't know my personal history either. I taught English as a Second Language at the university level to many foreign students for many years. I welcome all who would come to this country and enrich our collective culture.

            And I'm 51. You're not that much older than I am.

            Chill. Please.

            I enjoy your work and I think you are making some valuable contributions to the knowledge base around here.

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            • #21
              Paleobird,

              Fair & square. I'll chill.

              I am acutely aware of my iffy grammar. It is either accept it, or don't do live forums. My core work is always proofread by professional editors. It isn't a realistic option for this form of communication.

              Didn't get the benefits of formal education. Came to the States with zero English at 24. Learned it from reading, listening, and writing. Have been affected by ADD/HD most of my life, and can't learn anything in a traditional, by the rules, environment. Still befuddled by articles and tenses.

              I've decided to write my book in that very public way, so that I can get as much feedback as possible. It isn't about me, but about the readers. The more I learn about their frustrations and tribulations, the more I can help them. So let's have civilized discussion and learn from each other. That's what I am here for -- to learn.

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              • #22
                Great! So, Konstantin, friends?

                I have directed many people to your work particularly when they start obsessing about the "need" to get X# of grams of fiber/day in their diet. Your work on that subject is a very helpful resource.

                A friendly suggestion. Perhaps you could make sure that at least one of your copy editors is female. And a female who is not afraid to tell you what she thinks about content, not just someone checking your spelling.

                Women are probably a large percentage of your total readership. Being nice to us is in your best interest.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by 0Angel0 View Post
                  I have two issues: 1. ketogenic diets have been repeatedly shown to be muscle sparing not muscle wasting. 2. I didn't appreciate the condescending "policeman's wife" bit. "Being a policemanís wife, for example, is a definite health hazard, not because of the guns around the house but because of the husbandís ravenous appetite after a long day of fighting crime." You know there are female police officers nowadays too right? WTF is this the 50's?? Ugh!
                  Yeah that rubbed me the wrong way too since they said "Husband's occupation" but didn't mention how her occupation might make weightloss difficult. WTF???

                  Also, the thing about low-carb diets not working for women because the body thinks you're starving so it tries to protect your reproductive ability. Yeah, I suppose that's why a lot of women with PCOS find success both in weightloss and natural ovulation with low-carb diets?
                  Last edited by s-piper; 04-01-2013, 12:02 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                    Great! So, Konstantin, friends?
                    Well played, Paleobird, well played.

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                    • #25
                      "Complain to your local department of health." I hope he's kidding. My God! Even in today's over-regulated society, a complaint over the unavailability of smaller portion sizes would probably be laughed at (I hope). But seriously?! Put half of it in a box, and take it home. Or don't eat out. Complain to the health department--what kind of annoying dumb-ass would do something like that?

                      "If your workplace is a freezer and you can’t change it, file a complaint with a labor board, union, health department, or whoever else will listen and has a leverage to change it. As far as I am concerned, cold offices are a form of discrimination against women." What if you really, REALLY hate high ambient temperatures? A temperature of 76-78 degrees would render me brain-dead and highly irritable. Seriously, I get a spaced out feeling in my head when it's hot, especially when it's artificially hot (i.e., heater), and it gets hard for me to think. I also become highly irritable. My boyfriend likes it hotter than I do, and it's a constant source of conflict for us. I basically like it slightly cold so that I'd need to wear a sweatshirt at home. He likes to be able to wear shorts or whatever. it drives me insane. Sometimes he turns up the thermostat at night, and that causes me to wake up in the middle of the night and fly into a rage. I then proceed to scream at him until he wakes up too. Then I turn on the AC even though it's the middle of winter and 20 degrees outside. That's the only way I can get back to sleep.

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                      • #26
                        Back in the old days, when air conditioning was not ubiquitous in the work situation, people dressed appropriately for the season. Now men wear business suits indoors year round, which are appropriate clothing for the winter, and the temperature is turned down to accomodate such overdressing. If women wear seasonally-appropriate clothing, they freeze.

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                        • #27
                          Women also freeze if they wear gender appropriate/fashionable clothing.

                          I've gone so far as to wear hat, gloves, down jacket and a down sleeping bag in the office if that's what it takes. I love to be hot. I love my hot flashes. I love waking up in the middle of the night burning up. I'm so happy I'm not cold all the time anymore.
                          Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                          • #28
                            I didn't appreciate the condescending "policeman's wife" bit. "Being a policeman’s wife, for example, is a definite health hazard, not because of the guns around the house but because of the husband’s ravenous appetite after a long day of fighting crime." You know there are female police officers nowadays too right? WTF is this the 50's?? Ugh!
                            Yeah that rubbed me the wrong way too since they said "Husband's occupation" but didn't mention how her occupation might make weightloss difficult. WTF???
                            Konstantin, you see what several women are trying to get at here is that this quote involved a lot of outdated stereotypes about male and female roles.

                            1)Women stay home and cook
                            2)Women are less active than men

                            Which may or may not be true in any one relationship. He might stay home working on his computer all day and do the cooking while she is a firefighter.

                            I know you said that tenses are sometimes befuddling but it might help if you stated this in the conditional something like this when addressing women who are trying to lose weight:

                            "If you are cooking for a S.O. who has a more physically active job than yours, you could easily end up overeating by dishing out equal portions for both of you at the dinner table."

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                            • #29
                              My best friend from high school became a policewoman and married a firefighter. She had 4 boys. I wonder who needed to eat more in that household, him or her?
                              Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                              • #30
                                And the 'she' may actually be a 'he' married to a 'he'..

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