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    Hi all,

    I have a foster puppy (approx 3 mo old, looks like a tiny german shepherd, she's only 6lb) and she has crazy dry skin. It's not fleas or mites, just dry skin. My boston terrier also has chronic dry skin, but we eliminated grains from his diet and it is loads better. I can't do that with the foster, I'm contractually obligated to feed her the shelter food (Hill's Science Diet, ugh). What else can I do to help her? She is recovering from her spay so no oatmeal shampoo bath for a few more days. I'm thinking oil supplements? I have coconut, flaxseed, fish oil- anyone have any recommendations as to which will be the most helpful? Or is there something else I should try? She is set for a dog show and to hopefully find her forever home at the end of April, I'd like to have this somewhat under control by then.

    Thanks!

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    Dermcaps are what my vet gave me for my dogs uncomfortable itchy skin. You can get them from Amazon I think.
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    • #3
      My dog has non-food allergies that flare up occasionally and it causes his skin to get so red and rashy it looks like he has mange. I bathe him once a week, sometimes I can go two, in Cortisoothe shampoo and I used the Cortisoothe lotion several times a week as well.

      This seemed to keep his skin decent in between major flare ups but lately I've been using beef tallow and it's working wonders. I only use the Cortisoothe lotion right after a bath and every other day I use a small amount of beef tallow around his ears, his feet, legs, arm pits, and belly area. I started using it on my face several months ago and it's so amazing that I thought it might work for my dog too. It does! His skin is so much better. He's a pit bull so has very short hair but I'm not sure how well it would work on longer haired dogs. The only downside is I have to keep my cats away from him for an hour or so or the poor thing gets licked to death lol.

      When I say beef tallow I mean a homemade cream of about a cup of tallow, 2 T avocado oil, and essential oils to take the beefy smell away. It's ridiculously easy and so amazing! The exact recipe is all over the internet. It didn't take much for me to jump on board the Primal Paleo way of eating but I was more resistant to jump on the all natural skin and hair care bandwagon. This beef tallow is amazing though!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 0Angel0 View Post
        My dog has non-food allergies that flare up occasionally and it causes his skin to get so red and rashy it looks like he has mange. I bathe him once a week, sometimes I can go two, in Cortisoothe shampoo and I used the Cortisoothe lotion several times a week as well.

        This seemed to keep his skin decent in between major flare ups but lately I've been using beef tallow and it's working wonders. I only use the Cortisoothe lotion right after a bath and every other day I use a small amount of beef tallow around his ears, his feet, legs, arm pits, and belly area. I started using it on my face several months ago and it's so amazing that I thought it might work for my dog too. It does! His skin is so much better. He's a pit bull so has very short hair but I'm not sure how well it would work on longer haired dogs. The only downside is I have to keep my cats away from him for an hour or so or the poor thing gets licked to death lol.

        When I say beef tallow I mean a homemade cream of about a cup of tallow, 2 T avocado oil, and essential oils to take the beefy smell away. It's ridiculously easy and so amazing! The exact recipe is all over the internet. It didn't take much for me to jump on board the Primal Paleo way of eating but I was more resistant to jump on the all natural skin and hair care bandwagon. This beef tallow is amazing though!
        Tallow makes a lot of sense. I will have to keep this in mind!
        I have/do use fish body/krill/salmon oil. It's usually advisable to use Vitamin E with the O3 if at all possible. I ordered some O3/Vitamin E (combination) capsules from b-naturals.com. Great company to work with, they have been very helpful since my oldest dog was diagnosed with a heart problem.
        Dogaware.com has a lot of great go-to articles for diets/supplementation, as well as health problems (as does the b-naturals.com site).
        I've used coconut oil before. My dogs didn't care for the flavor right away. Picky assholes B)
        One of my dogs is severely intolerant/allergic to grains. Using oatmeal shampoo was a big no-no for him. He can't eat oatmeal without breaking out, so why I thought slathering it (in soap form) all over him and leaving it sit for 10 minutes before rinsing was a good idea is beyond me.
        A friend of mine has 4 chronically itchy dogs on a raw-grain-free diet. Dinovite is the only supplement that has helped calm the hot spots and bring their coats back. Too bad about the Science Diet. My PP dog would be dead or in really rough shape were it not for finally going raw :/

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        • #5
          If you really want to help this dog, I would try dropping grains from her diet too or switch to a more premium dog food otherwise you are stuck.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Kool View Post
            If you really want to help this dog, I would try dropping grains from her diet too or switch to a more premium dog food otherwise you are stuck.
            +1 Our dog's itchy skin cleared up in less than a week after we took him off the grains.
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            • #7
              Thanks all, I'll look at dogaware.com and also at those dermcaps. She has a thick coat so I don't want anything applied topically, although I will keep the tallow rub in mind for my boston. I thought about just switching her over to what my dogs eat, I know it would absolutely help, but I don't want the shelter to tell her new family she's been on Science Diet if she hasn't been, that could cause a lot of tummy trouble for her and might frustrate her new owners

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              • #8
                Personally I would stay away from the Dermacaps. I don't see why a dog needs to injest plant oils. IMO it's fish oil cut with cheaper plant oil.

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                • #9
                  Fish oil would be best.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Badkty22 View Post
                    I'm contractually obligated to feed her the shelter food (Hill's Science Diet, ugh).

                    Thanks!
                    UGH is right... & thats probably whats behind the problem..

                    You could try adding tinned sardines (in olive or sunflower oil) to her food, start with small amounts and work up to about 1/2 a tin a day which will help ...
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                    • #11
                      I heard Solid Gold uses less grains in their dog food, so that might help.
                      Do you have a local Chuck & Don's Pet food outlet? They usually sell cheaper dog food.
                      dog.com sells cheaper dog food too! they have a 15% off thing going on

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kool View Post
                        I heard Solid Gold uses less grains in their dog food, so that might help.
                        Do you have a local Chuck & Don's Pet food outlet? They usually sell cheaper dog food.
                        dog.com sells cheaper dog food too! they have a 15% off thing going on
                        It isn't a question of cost, I would happily feed her the grain free diet my dogs are on, but the shelter was very explicit that she eat the food they provided. I am giving her higher quality treats, but of course that won't offset the lower quality meals.

                        @ Dino- thanks for the suggestion, I will get a couple tins at the market today and see if she takes to it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Badkty22 View Post
                          It isn't a question of cost, I would happily feed her the grain free diet my dogs are on, but the shelter was very explicit that she eat the food they provided. I am giving her higher quality treats, but of course that won't offset the lower quality meals.
                          Yikes.... this is distressing to hear. And there's no medical reason why the dog needs to have this food, right, just because the shelter said so? I'm guessing it's something like "Kirklands" generic dog food or something?

                          If you genuinely can't change the dog's food (which would be the number one solution), I highly recommend adding fish oil and vitamin E to the dog's food. My husband and I did English Bulldog rescue/fostering for years and they have notorious horrible skins issues. The added fish oils/E made a world of difference.

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                          • #14
                            are you allowed to supplement the food? like with eggs, salmon, chicken skin, etc? naturally fatty foods?

                            i'd worry that dosing a dog with oil might cause a bowel "control" issue.
                            As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

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                            • #15
                              I had my dog on the Prescription Diet food, as per our vet - as a way to help with her accidents, coz she was peeing all the damn time. I couldn't afford that stuff. I am on a email listing with a rescue group where I had adopted my other Boston Terrier and everyone there was on-board with keeping the grains out of the foods. I picked up a bag of Taste of the Wild at Tractor Supply (recommended by multiples of adopters in the list) - it's a reasonably priced food and grain free. I transitioned her from the Prescription Diet to Taste of the Wild. I usually get a bag of the High Prairie mix (bison/venison/fruits/veggies) and she also loves the Pacific Stream mix (salmon/sweet potatoes). The great thing is, the constant peeing has stopped since I got her off the grains. Her coat is much nicer now and she has stopped licking her paws and scratching all the time.

                              I understand that the shelter thinks that they are providing the "best food" for the dogs, but is there any way that they would actually know that you are feeding something else ?
                              Everything's shiny, Cap'n. Not to fret.




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