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  • If I stop losing, some of the tweaks I will try before counting calories on my Up Days will be:

    Complete fasting on Down Days
    Fat Fasting on Down Days
    Fat Fasting on an Up Day, too!
    Exercising(now you KNOW how much I hate counting calories )
    Cold Thermogenesis
    Skipping a couple of Down Days, then plunging back in with a vengeance

    and finally...

    Researching more things to try instead of counting calories on an Up Day!

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    • I just had a really nice whoosh following my third down day.

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      • Originally posted by Sabine View Post
        If I stop losing, some of the tweaks I will try before counting calories on my Up Days will be:

        Complete fasting on Down Days
        Fat Fasting on Down Days
        Fat Fasting on an Up Day, too!
        Exercising(now you KNOW how much I hate counting calories )
        Cold Thermogenesis
        Skipping a couple of Down Days, then plunging back in with a vengeance

        and finally...

        Researching more things to try instead of counting calories on an Up Day!
        I've been meaning to try cold thermogenesis. Maybe I'll give that a shot. I'm working towards a complete fast on down days. I've been managing less than 100 cals on a couple of down days a week. I already work out like a maniac, and the fat fast, unfortunately, doesn't work for me. I think I'm going to have to count on UDs. This is very sad. I hate counting.

        My journal

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        • Hey everyone sorry i've been gone for so long. I went on a fantastic retreat this weekend. I'm no longer on ADF. I haven't weighed myself, but I needed a break. I'm happy to see everyone is doing well. I think ADF is AMAZING. everyone keep on trucking!!

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          • It's an up day, and I've found a Japanese buffet I'm going to check out for lunch. I may not eat supper.

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            • Trying to get back on schedule here...first DD in a while. Kinda struggling. But I will hold tight.

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              • Has anyone made it to a point where they want to maintain their weight? Just wondering how this works - do you back off on the number of down days or...??

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                • I'm finding it near impossible to stick to even a 5:2 diet without feeling dreadful the next day. However on looking back over the years, the times I've been fairly slim are when I was working in jobs or studying in an environment where I didn't or couldn't eat lunch.

                  For example I went through my entire high school career without eating lunch and I was painfully skinny. (I'm actually Aspergers and couldn't stand the school dining hall, would just go on a long walk at lunchtime or did extra study in the library).

                  Since retiring 9 months ago I had fallen into a "trap" of breakfast, lunch and dinner at approx 8am, 1.30pm and 6.30pm and have bunged on around 5 kilos.

                  Having read about ADF and 5:2 etc I'm wondering if the following will have some of the benefits of fasting:

                  No breakfast as such
                  A "brunch" at 11.00 am
                  A very busy afternoon (shopping, exercise, housework, gardening, hobbies etc etc, no sitting around waiting for the nibbles to strike)
                  Dinner at 6.00 pm

                  A fast from 6.30 to 11.00 the next day.
                  In other words 16 and a half hours fast every day. I wonder if that would make the body say "hey I'm fasting" ???

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                  • I am scared that I have hit another plateau. A week of no weight loss. Despite sticking to my DD calorie goals, it seems like whenever I go carb crazy or drink alcohol, I have made dropping weight about as easy as walking up the downward moving escalator. I will try cutting back on carbs first before trying to regularly push my UDs to the 2100 JUDDD recommends.

                    I have made some progress on going more primal at least. Made some beet chips and guacamole the other night. They tasted like sweet potato chips - yum!
                    Blogging my weight loss experiment using alternate day fasting here:

                    http://tryingadf.blogspot.com


                    Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Calorie Counter

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                    • omigosh! I havent been able to get back on track for almost 2 weeks now! Its gone, all gone. I fell off the wagon hard at a festival 1.5 weeks ago, ate loads of carbs, deep fried everything, and now i am am back in to old bad habits. I feel motivated (right now)because i came here to read what others are reporting. I've been down this awful road before though, motivated in the morning, giving up by mid afternoon, crying by bedtime.

                      Being back on the carbs is creating real issues for my colitis too, and I still cant seem to stop myself.
                      I seem to be eating for boredom. I really need to find something to do with myself now that Im working part time.

                      Its 8 am here, and Im going to make myself a "to do " list so I have no free time today. isn't it awful that I cant be trusted with free time? That I will eat the wrong food to the point where i will actually hurt myself? What is up with that?

                      Here i go again with the "today is another new day " routine. Been here before.
                      What a depressing post huh?
                      I will think of all of you through the day to help me stay on track. Once I get a couple of days behind me, I'm usually good to go. I just need those first couple of days,.
                      Primal 90% from sept. 2012
                      looking to alter ulcerative colitis

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                      • Originally posted by elkay7 View Post
                        I am scared that I have hit another plateau. A week of no weight loss. Despite sticking to my DD calorie goals, it seems like whenever I go carb crazy or drink alcohol, I have made dropping weight about as easy as walking up the downward moving escalator. I will try cutting back on carbs first before trying to regularly push my UDs to the 2100 JUDDD recommends.
                        I ate sushi yesterday and today my weight is up 2.8 pounds. I'm starting to think maybe rice bloats me. I only had one plate of it, and a plate of (mostly plain) seafood, and fruit at the buffet. If carbs and alcohol are bloating you, but you are staying within your calorie limits, you should expect a whoosh when you clean that up.

                        Originally posted by TerriAnn View Post
                        omigosh! I havent been able to get back on track for almost 2 weeks now! Its gone, all gone. I fell off the wagon hard at a festival 1.5 weeks ago, ate loads of carbs, deep fried everything, and now i am am back in to old bad habits. I feel motivated (right now)because i came here to read what others are reporting. I've been down this awful road before though, motivated in the morning, giving up by mid afternoon, crying by bedtime.

                        Being back on the carbs is creating real issues for my colitis too, and I still cant seem to stop myself.
                        I seem to be eating for boredom. I really need to find something to do with myself now that Im working part time.

                        Its 8 am here, and Im going to make myself a "to do " list so I have no free time today. isn't it awful that I cant be trusted with free time? That I will eat the wrong food to the point where i will actually hurt myself? What is up with that?

                        Here i go again with the "today is another new day " routine. Been here before.
                        What a depressing post huh?
                        I will think of all of you through the day to help me stay on track. Once I get a couple of days behind me, I'm usually good to go. I just need those first couple of days,.
                        Start by eating meat, then vegetables, and then fruit. Even if you overeat them a bit, it will help nourish you and leave you without hunger that will trick you into wanting empty calories.

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                        • Originally posted by TerriAnn View Post
                          omigosh! I havent been able to get back on track for almost 2 weeks now! Its gone, all gone. I fell off the wagon hard at a festival 1.5 weeks ago, ate loads of carbs, deep fried everything, and now i am am back in to old bad habits. I feel motivated (right now)because i came here to read what others are reporting. I've been down this awful road before though, motivated in the morning, giving up by mid afternoon, crying by bedtime.

                          Being back on the carbs is creating real issues for my colitis too, and I still cant seem to stop myself.
                          I seem to be eating for boredom. I really need to find something to do with myself now that Im working part time.

                          Its 8 am here, and Im going to make myself a "to do " list so I have no free time today. isn't it awful that I cant be trusted with free time? That I will eat the wrong food to the point where i will actually hurt myself? What is up with that?

                          Here i go again with the "today is another new day " routine. Been here before.
                          What a depressing post huh?
                          I will think of all of you through the day to help me stay on track. Once I get a couple of days behind me, I'm usually good to go. I just need those first couple of days,.
                          No great words of advice..but I have been there. A few days ago! It's hard..

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                          • Elkay- I have had two- and three- week periods where my weight bobbles around the same numbers, and then down I go. Sometimes I can relate it to over-eating on my Up Days, sometimes it just IS. Either way, my Down Days in general are so easy, that staying the same for a few weeks while eating all I want (or more) is a far better place than I was, so I'll take it.

                            Hope you go down soon.

                            TeriAnn- that's rough. Good luck getting back to where you feel good about what you are eating. Are there 'good foods' you love that you could overeat on for a few days, so that even if you are still eating too much/for boredom/etc, at least it is only good stuff and will bring your insulin levels back to normal? Sometimes I let myself eat massive quantities, and as long as it is good stuff, I don't feel so bad about it.

                            I had some stress eating yesterday, and for what is probably a silly reason, but it is what it is. And it was an Up Day, so it is all good. Ready for my Down Day though: I feel so stodgy.

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                            • Originally posted by MikeAtTaree View Post
                              A fast from 6.30 to 11.00 the next day.
                              In other words 16 and a half hours fast every day. I wonder if that would make the body say "hey I'm fasting" ???
                              Yes, you can benefit from 16-hour fasts. There's a lot of information out there about intermittent fasting. Just google it. pklopp has written a three-part series regarding IF on these forums. Find and read them. But he suggests doing longer fasts, and those may not work for everyone. If you find that ADF is difficult, you could try 16-hour fasts, then maybe increase that gradually to 18 or 19 hours. There's this book called Fast Five (I think) that describes a method, which is basically a 19-hour fast and a 5-hour eating window. It works well for some, but I have never been able to lose weight on it.

                              In other news, I felt like crap during crossfit endurance today. Wanted to keel over and die during the last 600-m run. We did 3 x 200-m, 3 x 400-m, and 3 x 600-m. By the last two 600-m rounds, I was no longer sprinting. And my legs literally had no strength in them near the end. I think it's because yesterday was a DD, and I only ate 100 calories. I ate before the workout (which is bad since that pre-workout insulin spike suppressed HGH production, thereby inhibiting all that extra fat burning from the sprints), but it was still terrible. Had I not eaten, I probably would have died.

                              My journal

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                              • Originally posted by diene View Post
                                Yes, you can benefit from 16-hour fasts. There's a lot of information out there about intermittent fasting. Just google it. pklopp has written a three-part series regarding IF on these forums. Find and read them. But he suggests doing longer fasts, and those may not work for everyone. If you find that ADF is difficult, you could try 16-hour fasts, then maybe increase that gradually to 18 or 19 hours. There's this book called Fast Five (I think) that describes a method, which is basically a 19-hour fast and a 5-hour eating window. It works well for some, but I have never been able to lose weight on it.

                                In other news, I felt like crap during crossfit endurance today. Wanted to keel over and die during the last 600-m run. We did 3 x 200-m, 3 x 400-m, and 3 x 600-m. By the last two 600-m rounds, I was no longer sprinting. And my legs literally had no strength in them near the end. I think it's because yesterday was a DD, and I only ate 100 calories. I ate before the workout (which is bad since that pre-workout insulin spike suppressed HGH production, thereby inhibiting all that extra fat burning from the sprints), but it was still terrible. Had I not eaten, I probably would have died.
                                See marks post today about salt. Once I added trace minerals, salt and iodine to my water pre and post workout, the diffirence has been remarkable.

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