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  • Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
    It was definitely worthwhile. I haven't lost a lot of weight, but I am looking a lot leaner. It will be a couple of days before my weight settles down again.

    I might do something like it again, but I would have to figure out what I need to have going on with my macros.
    Good to know, thanks for sharing! I will keep it in mind if I continue to have trouble toning up.

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    • Originally posted by Gladmorning View Post
      So... I think I put on muscle weight? The last three days we've been working HARD putting in fence. Lots of heavy lifting, pulling, pushing, etc. My diet has been just fine, but the scale went up 2 pounds. So... does muscle weight show up that fast if I still have a lot of weight to lose, or am I retaining water weight because I'm working so hard?
      Sorry Gladmorning, but two pounds of gained muscle over a couple of days is just not physically possible - muscle hypertrophy is waaaaay more gradual than that. I suspect it's just water weight - a little swelling around your sore bits. Don't worry, it will go away shortly.
      I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.

      Oscar Wilde

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      • Hey all, doing really well this week keeping my carbs down and not going over my ud cals. I hope my weight come Friday reflects that! I really need to read the alternate day diet book so I can explain what I'm doing and why it has endless health benefits because anytime I explain it to people they are aghast and think I'm starving myself. My BFF why like " omg what are you doing to your blood sugar!" And I was all well I don't eat wheat or other grains and sugars to spike my blood sugar so I'm sure it's better than ever....... Lol! Idk I feel like I'm not informed enough and need to be able to explain this WOE better.but what it really comes down to is its the only thing that broke me through my plateau!

        Yoga- congrats on graduating!

        I had my daughters Pre-school graduation yesterday and it left me emotional, and not in a good way. She was the only kid who refused to wear the grad cap, then she wouldn't walk on stage and when we finally got her on stage she sat facing sideways and not the audience. She also didnt sing any of the cute songs with her class mates and at one point was sitting on her knees on her chair with her back facing the audience. It was embarrassing she was the only child not participating and it makes me worry she's like this all the time at school and that she's not ready for kindergarten in the fall. Sigh, she's a stubborn strong willed child, resistant to learning and following directions. I constantly 2nd guess having another child because of this but my husband has no such reservations. :/ wish me luck I'm gonna need it!
        Veronica
        High weight: 263.8 lbs
        Primal start weight 1/26/13: 233 lbs
        ADF start weight 10/12/15 : 188.2lbs
        Current weight: 177.6 lbs
        Goal: 145 lbs

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        • Congratulations, Yoga. That's wonderful.

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          • Today is my first down day. Wish me luck. Hungry already. xD
            The Age of Strife- My continuing journey to a happier, healthier, more natural lifestyle.

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            • Good luck Strife, lol!

              I've been struggling a bit with my down days, so mostly they've been medium days. Today is supposed to be a down day and I'm going to try to stick to it, but I'm craving a hot tasty drink (think Starbuck's candy, lol). I've had a little hot chocolate trying to quell the craving, but I think that's just made it worse...sometimes it helps and sometimes it makes it worse. :|

              I think I've been eating way too many carbs again and that always sets off more sugar cravings, so I guess I'll have to watch a little more closely.

              Originally posted by Yoga11 View Post
              guess what everyone?! I graduate tomorrow!
              Congratulations!!!

              Originally posted by Gladmorning View Post
              So... I think I put on muscle weight? The last three days we've been working HARD putting in fence. Lots of heavy lifting, pulling, pushing, etc. My diet has been just fine, but the scale went up 2 pounds. So... does muscle weight show up that fast if I still have a lot of weight to lose, or am I retaining water weight because I'm working so hard?
              Originally posted by lucy1984 View Post
              I would say you are retaining water in your muscles. After a weights session I often weigh a kilo more the next day - which is about 2 pound. But that's good - it means something is happening repair wise and you are getting stronger from it.
              ^ This. Whenever I lift heavy there is always a little water weight gain.
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              • vlo1125 - I have one of those!!! I tell people she will be an amazing, strong grown woman but getting her there might kill one of us. She can be so fustrating but she also makes me smile a lot because I know she will not be pushed into doing things she doesn't want to do. BUT she also needs to do things she is SUPPOSED to do. Brats.

                Strife - If I made it through yesterday, you can make it through today! I found coffee & green tea helps. And cucumbers in vinegar.

                So survived yesterday. Two pounds down on the scale, but I am sure one at least will come back. Woke up not very hungry and slept very well. There might be something to this..

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                • Good luck, Strife! Today is a DD for me too, and I'm hungry already too (crossfit does that to me). I find that drinking hot water with salt, apple cider vinegar, and red pepper flakes helps. It works way better for me than just drinking coffee, tea, or seltzer water (but I drink those as well).

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                  • It looks like people are slowing down in the weight loss. Remember, as long as insulin is present you will not be burning fat. For some people as little as 100 cal can cause insulin to circulate for 3-5 hours. If you are only consuming 400 cal during your down days, but spacing out your meal frequency, then you might be losing everything but fat. You should read Pkllopp's, and Mark's take on all of this. All free info, no reason to buy a JUDD's book.

                    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread29011.html

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                    • Originally posted by Bobert View Post
                      All free info, no reason to buy a JUDD's book.

                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread29011.html
                      I would agree about watching your carbohydrates in relation to your insulin response, but...

                      There is some very good information on the action of SIRT1 in Dr. Johnson's book. One of the things it does is make it harder for your cells to store fat and easier to release it. This can act in conjunction with your insulin response.

                      And, yes, you can find this, and other information out on the internet, but...

                      Just as I buy Mark's books to support him as thanks for providing this great website, I have bought ADD and 5:2FD to support those authors.

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                      • Protein can cause an insulin response as well. Protein can deactivate SIRT1. Meal frequency is much more important during these "fast" days then an extra 100 cal.

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                        • I've been wondering about this. I crossfit in the morning, and I have a protein shake after crossfit. Then, on down days, I don't eat again until dinner. The protein shake clearly disrupts my fast. Without it, I'll end up with a 20-22 hour fast on these days. With the shake, it's really no fast to speak of. But I'm reluctant to give up the shake because (a) I'm afraid that it will impede my strength gains at crossfit and (b) lifting heavy normally makes me ravenously hungry for protein (meat and eggs) and the shake blunts that hunger, making the DDs more bearable. I've been improving nicely at crossfit, and I really don't want to stop improving, or, worse yet, start regressing. I realize that some muscle loss is inevitable when one is trying to lose weight; however, I'd like to minimize muscle loss. I think that having the shake after crossfit is a good compromise. What do you think?

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                          • Serenity- are you getting the weight loss results you want? If so, I wouldn't worry about the shake, unless and until you are not losing any more. Then, it would be a thing to consider. If not, try going without it for a week and see if it makes any difference, both in weight loss and muscle strength.

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                            • I'm only a week in so I think it's too early to say whether I'm getting the results I want. I think I'll just keep at it and not change anything for now. Give it at least a month and then re-evaluate. Psychologically, I find this to be really easy. Whether or not it works has yet to be seen. It's possible that I'm simply eating too much on my UDs. But the ability to eat as much as I want on UDs is what's making this so awesome.

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                              • So far so good. I had a roasted red pepper and a little bit of moz cheese in brine. And a lot of water. I'll be nibbling on some olives and feta cheese for dinner tonight. Debating having some coffee versus just sticking to water.
                                The Age of Strife- My continuing journey to a happier, healthier, more natural lifestyle.

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