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  • #46
    Originally posted by Gladmorning View Post
    It's fun to do this with other folks. I have been weighing myself everday, but yesterday was an interesting day. One Guinness draft beef, some grapes and raspberries (which I NEVER eat) and a lot of roast chicken. Ok. I roasted one of my own chickens, and I have never successfully roasted a chicken, but this boy turned out SO GOOD. YUM!
    I know this is a typo, but I want it.

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    • #47
      I started this yesterday to lose the "last 5 pounds" that crept on over the winter. I had been eating under 100 gms of carbs and cycling calories, but my progress was a bit too slow!

      So I ate one meal yesterday & some cream in my frequent decaf teas and some chicken broth & gelatin in the eve (about 600 calories total.)

      I went on a gentle hike for about 2 hours after my meal.

      I could deal with the hunger, no problem, but this morning I woke up at 8 with "funny" vision--like you can get pre-migraine and a mild headache (I rarely have headaches/migraines.)

      Is this a normal symptom? Like detoxing? I've never had this before on my 16-20 hour IFs.

      The funny vision went away after eating. Still have a slight headache.
      Last edited by Dragonfly; 03-27-2013, 08:14 AM.
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      • #48
        I dont see any reaaon this would be much different than fasting as far as side effects go. I would guess sinus issues if it happened to me.
        Chris
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        My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by demuralist View Post
          I dont see any reason this would be much different than fasting as far as side effects go. I would guess sinus issues if it happened to me.
          Well, when I was IFing, I wasn't consciously dropping my calories so low. I usually ate 1500-1700.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
            I know this is a typo, but I want it.
            BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Ya know, I have actually brined a turkey in Guinness. Yes. It is as amazing as it sounds.
            The process is simple: Free your mind, and your ass will follow.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Dragonfly View Post


              I could deal with the hunger, no problem, but this morning I woke up at 8 with "funny" vision--like you can get pre-migraine and a mild headache (I rarely have headaches/migraines.)

              Is this a normal symptom? Like detoxing? I've never had this before on my 16-20 hour IFs.

              The funny vision went away after eating. Still have a slight headache.
              could be an electrolyte imbalance.
              As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

              Ernest Hemingway

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              • #52
                Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
                could be an electrolyte imbalance.
                Yes, possibly. I did drink lots of water & homemade chicken broth & I took extra Magnesium (to avoid constipation.) Maybe my Potassium was out of whack...? Anyway, I'm fine & taking it easy this morning.
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                • #53
                  I wonder how much difference there is between a daily 24 hr IF warrior diet style and this plan? Anybody compared the two?

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                  • #54
                    I'm in! Today is down day...........

                    1 egg - fried in 1 TB Kerrygold! (yum)

                    Hot tea through the afternoon, with stevia

                    3 oz beef patty and steamed veg's for dinner.

                    so far so good.

                    today's weight 183.6
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                      I wonder how much difference there is between a daily 24 hr IF warrior diet style and this plan? Anybody compared the two?
                      I think the main difference would be the length of the fasting window. I believe it needs to be over 30 hours to activate the SIRT1, so Warrior, at 20-24 hours, wouldn't be enough.

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                      • #56
                        So Sabine, I think I am correct in my memory that under 500 calories is still within what Johnson considered a fast? Is there science to back this up or was his an N=1 experiment as well.
                        Chris
                        "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                        My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Sabine View Post
                          I think the main difference would be the length of the fasting window. I believe it needs to be over 30 hours to activate the SIRT1, so Warrior, at 20-24 hours, wouldn't be enough.
                          But on the DDs you are not really fasting. Lower calories are still enough to make the SIRT1 kick in?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by demuralist View Post
                            Paleobird, I have not heard of that particular version of IF, but really I think the point is that it is not that great for us to keep our intake the same day after day week after week. I mean even if you take into account the types of foods that are available for each season we would have to do some version of alternating right?
                            Yeah, I can see the merit in the "mixing things up" reasoning.

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                            • #59
                              I did my first fast yesterday, along the lines of it being only 500cal over 36 hours. It was suprisingly easy, more so than last time I tried - perhaps because my thyroid is better medicated these days? When I got up this morning I didn't have a raging hunger, which I had kind of expected, so I went for a walk pre breakfast.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                                But on the DDs you are not really fasting. Lower calories are still enough to make the SIRT1 kick in?
                                Apparently yes. Dr Michael Mosely did the 5:2 regime for 5 weeks, and halfed his levels of the S1RT1. I think that was the thing they were measuring - lower levels decrease risk of cancer etc? And he stuck to 600cal or less on his down days, but not a complete fast.

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