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  • Primal Eating .... At first I felt GREAT ... but now .... :(

    I need advice/ideas. I started doing primal with the help of nutritionist. I sort of eased into it - but I did immediately cut out sugar and all processed foods. For the first 1-2 weeks I felt like crap as I was detoxing from my sugar/processed food addiction - but that is to be expected.

    Then I felt GREAT! I had never felt so great in my life. The weight was coming off at about 2 lbs a week, I had energy, my digestive track was starting to work normally.

    And then slowly over time, my body just feels terrible again - even though I generally eat primal at least 90% of the time (I will have 1-2 meals a week that are "cheat" meals - typically these are still high quality foods and in moderation - example: small piece of flourless chocolate cake (made with cane sugar) for birthday celebration. I just have no energy and require so much sleep. I never feel fully "awake" and am just tired a lot. I don't feel good anymore.

    Any ideas on what could be wrong with me? Or what I may be doing wrong?

    Thanks!

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    I should add, just in case it helps, that I am 32, 5'8, started at 290 but lost 25 lbs on the diet (until I totally have plateaued for the last month+), I do have insulin resistance and tend to carry all my weight in my belly.

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    • #3
      Are you following the Primal Exercise routine or just the diet? I'm assuming you cut out all types of grains? What's a normal day like in terms of meals?

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      • #4
        Just the diet. It was a major life overhaul so at first I felt like eating primal was a major change and wanted t ofocus on that adjustment. I now walk about 30 minutes a day outside. I'd like to add the exercise but I am so fatigued all the time - between working full time and being a student - eating primal, walking, and sleeping enough seem to be all I can handle and I can hardly handle that. I should try adding exercise - sprinting and heavy weights etc to see if that helps things. If I could manage on 8-9 hours of sleep, I'd have plenty of time for this stuff!

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        • #5
          You may want to get some blood work done. Check Vitamin D, hormones, full thyroid panel, anything else your doc recommends for fatigue!

          I felt like that for about 10 years, from onset of puberty until last year. What helped me was keeping to a regular sleep schedule, and learning that I had low progesterone (and treating that)! Regular exercise only helps me a little.
          Depression Lies

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          • #6
            Does "eating primal" mean eating real foods, or eating low carb?
            "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

            In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

            - Ray Peat

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            • #7
              It doesn't sound like you're doing anything wrong.
              Unless...how often do you eat during the day? I feel like there's somewhat too much of an emphasis on skipping lunch in the Primal community. You don't have to only have 2 meals a day.

              However, I would also suggest seeing a doctor and getting bloodwork done because since your weightloss has also stalled it sounds like the symptom of a hormone imbalance like maybe hypothyriod.

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              • #8
                I am eating whole real foods and low carbs. Generally I eat things like grass fed steak, chicken thighs with skin, free range eggs, and lots of veggies. Minimal fruit, and full fat greek yogurt.

                My doctor just retested all my blood work - hopefully I find the results soon.

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                • #9
                  Yes, blood work is needed.

                  Something like this happened to me. 2.5 weeks of omg do I feel bad. Follow by "Oh, this is much better". And then one day I felt really great! Lots of excess energy, and I felt like I was glowing.

                  That feeling only lasted one day. Since then I've been back to the "Oh, this is much better" condition but have slowly been gaining energy and strength (without exercising). I haven't heard others mention this reaction so I guess it's not common.

                  I do suggest a good supplement, especially B complex for energy.
                  "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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                  • #10
                    Some people thrive on low carb, but a lot of people have trouble with it. See if this resonates with you: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread70748.html
                    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                    - Ray Peat

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                    • #11
                      Simple, not enough calories and or carbs.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Zach View Post
                        Simple, not enough calories and or carbs.
                        This was my first thought as well. Maybe try adding calories or carbs or both. See how you feel...if you still feel like garbage I think blood work should be done.

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                        • #13
                          I'm scared to up the calories or carbs because I am not losing weight - but I will try. Actually I did start adding in more healthy carbs this week in an attempt to feel better (more berries, sweet potatoes etc than usual). I have not been calorie counting - but maybe I should start?

                          And to answer an earlier question, I do eat regularly through the day - I'm too hungry to skip meals. Here is an example day:

                          Breakfast: four homemade beef and pork meatballs made with almond flour, grass fed beef, and hot italian sausage with no "weird" additives or sugar added. 1/2 large avocado, 1/2-1cup 2% or full fat greek yogurt.

                          Lunch: 2 full fat chicken thighs cooked in a curry sauce made from curry powder and full fat coconut milk, carrots and cauliflower. Served with about half a sweet potato.

                          Snack: Hunk of Brie cheese (sometimes with an apple - not if I had a sweet potato earlier though)

                          Dinner: Grass Fed Steak with brussel sprouts cooked in coconut oil or steamed greens mixed with grass fed butter.

                          And sometimes one more snack of berries and cream with stevia as a treat. Or eggs.
                          Last edited by mandypandy2246; 03-22-2013, 02:04 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Do you have a good dr? One that is willing to do all the bloodwork, not just a few tests here and there? Your food looks good but maybe upping the carbs some would help. Just based on what I see you are around 50 carbs a day? Are you testing your BG levels? You might do that for a couple of weeks and see if that is a problem. Good luck!! Get the blood work done. And it sounds like you are carrying quite a load between work and school. Could it be stress? Is there a way to alleviate that? What was happening around you during the time you felt so awesome? What different is happening now? Being healthy ain't for sissies It takes some hard work to get there. Don't give up!
                            You know all those things you wanted to do: You should go do them.

                            Age 48
                            height 5'3
                            SW 215 lbs
                            CW 180 lbs (whole foods/primal eating)
                            LW 172 lbs
                            GW 125ish lbs

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                            • #15
                              Everyone's different but in my case I suffered occasionally at the beginning if I did a long walk or something similar and didn't get enough carbs. I beleive there is a natural transition period where it isn't wise to deprive yourself of carbs if you are active during any given day. 4 weeks in, I increased my carb intake from natural sources, my personal favorites being bananas, dates and potatoes. This really made a difference for me and gave me a bit more energy that I was lacking. I still use them, although after four months, I'm naturally becoming less reliant on them ,but I'm glad I gave myself this time to transition, and still make sure I get my carbs if I am doing a lot of activity. I also advocate fruit in moderation, I typically eat at least 2 pieces a day, plus as I said the occasional potato or handful of dates, and I'm still loosing weight happily.

                              Whilst it's possible to become a 100% fat burner and go low carb, you must realize that

                              a)your body will struggle to do this immediately

                              b) it isn't really necessary provided you're using natural sources of carbs in moderation - that really is a 100% valid option, (in my experience at least, and allows me to eat spanish omlette, one of my favorite dishes :-) )
                              Last edited by Owen; 03-22-2013, 02:17 PM.
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