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  • #16
    I'd guess you are really thirsty, rather than hungry. Forty oz of water is not much. I usually aim for 1/2 my weight (in pounds) in liquids (in ounces). So for a 300 lb person, that would be 150 oz a day.

    Also, when I am eating a lot of fat and protein, I need more water than when I am eating more carbs.

    Try hydrating more and see if you feel better.
    Janeen

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    • #17
      Yes I perpetually refill my water bottle and glass throughout the day, especially now that I've been hungry. I only track water I drink during the work day because I have a 32 ounce bottle and an 8 ounce glass so I know exactly how much is going on there. I tend to drink lots of water at home also, but not typically a measured amount. We have all kinds of glasses and figuring out how much water is balls. :P

      That being said, increasing my water intake is an ongoing improvement that I am working on because it makes my skin and hair feel better, so thanks for mentioning that. I am forever working to increase it.

      This hunger I am experiencing is very strange. It is not a craving for anything specific, though yesterday I was having strong desires for fatty meat (bacon, pork butt, ribeye) and that's why I went out and bought bacon, specifically. =P Historically my cravings are very easy to spot and always revolve around some terrible thing like Doritos. Indulging this craving never ends well for me, so that I am not doing right now.

      This is a pervasive feeling of hunger, complete with gnawing empty feeling, growling continuously for hours. All else seems normal, digestion, bathroom habits, etc.

      *sighs @ self*

      Thanks everyone for talking through this first world problem with me.
      yay!

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      • #18
        Are you on any medications? I notice that on primal my body keeps changing and adjusting. For example, for a while I was Potassium deficient and could take amost 1200mg / day with no problems. A month later and 400mg is enough or there are bad results. But in general you seem to be eating enough. Have you experienced weight loss before. Feeling hungry is not really a bad feeling, of course sugar crashing is.
        "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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        • #19
          The only medication I take is occasional Walgreen's Migraine Relief and heavy use of Ibuprofen on my time of the month. I am not on any prescription medication at all.

          Yeah the blood sugar crash feeling is what really scared me, and prompted this thread. Last year I do lose a good amount of weight, and I was never this hungry through out that.

          I just ate my shepards pie for lunch around 1 as someone else suggested, it took me about 20 minutes to pack it all away in my tummy and 30 minutes after that I am not yet feeling hunger pangs.

          I will hope for the best over the next few days. =)
          yay!

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          • #20
            How much salt are you getting? Cravings are often a sign that you are lacking in something.
            Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

            Griff's cholesterol primer
            5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
            Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
            TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
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            • #21
              You know, I'm not sure. Salt is not something I've ever really tracked much. I used to (pre 2012) drink tons of soda and canned soups so I got salt out the wazoo, now I do neither of things so. :x

              I think my quiche and shepards pie had maybe 1 tsp of salt each split among the entire batch. Not sure on the salt content in my salad dressing, it is made from scratch by a local food shop and honestly it's the only salad dressing I love so I don't want to know and have it be ruined. I imagine since it is a ceaser and presumably made with anchovies that the salt content may be decent to high.

              I don't salt food ever once it's cooked. I think it's the principle of it, I have always been a bit offended when people salt food (either mine, or someone else's, restaurants) without even tasting it. I will never salt it, SO THERE. :P
              yay!

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              • #22
                FWIW I have begun adding seasalt to my food fairly generously, after reading various threads about carb flu and feeling lethargic etc. It seems to make me feel better!! I do work out hard and sweat puddles - so maybe that explains why I seem to NEED the salt.

                Suppose I'm just saying salt might not be a no-no?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by qqemokitty View Post
                  I don't salt food ever once it's cooked. I think it's the principle of it, I have always been a bit offended when people salt food (either mine, or someone else's, restaurants) without even tasting it. I will never salt it, SO THERE. :P
                  I NEVER used to salt my food, but now I'm an auto-salter. I'm sure some of that is just me getting less hidden salt in foods than before, but I think that some of it might be some sort of deficiency craving.

                  As long as your BP is ok, there's no reason to fear salt.
                  Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                  Griff's cholesterol primer
                  5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                  Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                  TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                  bloodorchid is always right

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                  • #24
                    Just a few thoughts... A rumbling stomach does not always mean hunger. An empty feeling does not necessarily mean hunger. Hungry feelings shortly after eating a substantial meal are almost assuredly not physical hunger.

                    I am most likely to feel suddenly, inexplicably famished if I have some big emotional situation going on, or some work I really don't want to do.

                    That said, there are times when I suddenly feel hungry and don't think I should be physically hungry. It's usually because i've introduced some food I wasn't eating much before (say, nuts, dairy), or if I'm not getting enough carbs, or too many carbs, or strangely, anytime I eat a lot of eggs.

                    I don't know what's triggering you; these are just things I've noticed about myself. I do want to encourage you to continue to listen to and nourish your body and learn what your triggers are. I once weighed 280 at 5'6" and now weigh 180. I could probably stand to drop another 20. I didn't lose it all being paleo, but paleo is what I always come back to for lifelong health.
                    Janeen

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by qqemokitty View Post
                      I don't salt food ever once it's cooked. I think it's the principle of it, I have always been a bit offended when people salt food (either mine, or someone else's, restaurants) without even tasting it. I will never salt it, SO THERE. :P
                      I had a boyfriend who used to liberally salt and pepper everything I served at the table without even tasting it. But when he cooked, he would refuse to season it, then be highly offended if I tasted it and added salt. Go figure.

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                      • #26
                        Janeen, thanks for your input. I am no stranger to emotional eating, that is for damn sure. Though I can't complain. My boyfriend and I are happy, I just got a promotion and a raise today! And generally my life is grand, aside from being fat. :P It genuinely feels like hunger and not cravings. Maybe I don't know what hunger is supposed to feel like... I have considered that my lifelong warped relationship with food has made me unable to tell when I am hungry, satisfied, dehydrated, etc.

                        @eKatherine: omg stabby feelings!!!
                        yay!

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                        • #27
                          This is a more difficult one. A rumbling stomach can mean hunger; it can also mean stomach problems.

                          1. It really can't be hunger 1/2 to 1 hours after eating. The food you've eaten has barely made it into the small intestine. More likely your body is telling you it wants something it's not getting or it's getting something it doesn't like. Be very sure you're not eating any HFCS. Don't drink unless you're really thirsty. More salt should make you more thirsty. Salt it good.

                          2. Stop with all the fluids. You don't need nearly that much. You're washing out all the water-soluble vitamins and nutrients. Maybe one or more of what your body is wanting. and don't drink during the meal.

                          3. Take a really good multi supplement, like Mark's. Also take a good probiotic at least daily to make sure your body is able to digest what you're giving it.

                          4. If your body is complaining about something you are giving it be sure you are 100% primal until your stomach heals. Read all the ingredients lists very carefully again.
                          Last edited by Cryptocode; 03-20-2013, 07:45 PM.
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                          • #28
                            Try eating more meat. I find protein very satiating, especially if I eat a lot of it for a while and let myself get all filled up with it over time to the point of wanting to skip a meal because the idea of more protein is unappetizing. Then I know I've cured that hunger beast for a good long while.
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                            • #29
                              Have you tried drinking liquid fat?

                              Drink heavy cream, coconut oil or something. And have some salt. A lot of times after these two things a person won't even want to think about food for the rest of the day.

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                              • #30
                                Your menu is the type that leaves me hungry for more. I started around your weight, so far I'm down close to 100 lbs, but I aim to eat 2500-2800 calories a day with IF and daily exercise. Eating cheese, fruit, and starch with my meals satisfies me. A salad loaded with meat, cheese, dressing, etc. always leaves me hungrier than if I included a potato and fruit or rice or tapioca/rice bread. Try adding a potato to breakfast and see if that helps.
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