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  • #16
    I've tried it. It actually helps A LOT in restoring the metabolism from dieting as well as restoring all of your strength. The problem is that if you cheat too hard, you end up with too many calories, which clearly cancels out the benefits of what you were trying to achieve from it. Think about it. What good is a faster metabolism if you're still eating too much.

    With that being said, I think you'd be much better off doing carb refeeds post workout. And if you stick to primal foods such as sugary fruits and sweet potatoes, you most likely won't go overboard on the calories. Or better yet; don't eliminate carbs and leptin won't drop.

    Other than that, you still have 80/20, which mainly applies to adherence and practicality.

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    • #17
      I have cheat meals- not very often "cheat days". It happens maybe 2-4 times a month, and usually happens when I'm with my boyfriend's family. I was a hard-core gluten-free vegan for 8 years. I like not restricting myself so much now and actually enjoying things once and a while.
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      • #18
        This is always a question that brings out interesting answers. I'm not sure if I could do this once a week. Too much interruption and distraction for me. Also, I don't ever think about it as a "cheat day." Those are for diets. I am not on a diet. There are days when I eat non primal foods. For example, I went to a wedding this weekend. It was mid day, and their meal was fingerling potatoes, chicken in tomato cream sauce, smoked brisket, and bacon wrapped pork medallions along with a salad. This was an AWESOME meal for me. All the meats were fantastic. Then came the cake. I ate a piece. It was raspberry flavored. Freaking awesome. Then I had some red wine and a jack and coke. We stayed out late with some good friends and ordered a late night thin crust pizza. I had two pieces. By the end, my stomach was burning, I was dizzy (not from the alcohol) and I had a headache. It all tasted great, but I was quickly reminded why I don't eat those things anymore.

        April 14th, it's my anniversary, not going to worry about what I eat that night. April 30th is my hub's birthday, not going to care that night either.

        Get my point? Save these non primal moments for the special occasions. Take a carb refeed day everyone once in a while, but make it primal carbs. Potatoes come to mind. I thoroughly believe carb refeeds help with weight loss, but junk food benders don't.
        The process is simple: Free your mind, and your ass will follow.

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        • #19
          I actually view cereals, bread, noodles, rice and soda as not being food. One doesn't eat things which are not food.

          If I were to chow down I'd have a steak with a bunch of sweet potatoes and butter.

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          • #20
            Unfortunately I can't get away with cheating 3 good microbrew stout beers on saturday left me 2lbs heavier. Last month it was 4 gin and tonics that caused a 3lb gain and took two weeks to come back off.

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            • #21
              That's absurd. 3 beers is nowhere near the 10k+ calories it takes to cause that much weight gain. It's water weight or natural body fluctuations. I had a terrible moment and ate half a box of cereal among other things and I didn't even gain a pound.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Damiana View Post
                That's absurd. 3 beers is nowhere near the 10k+ calories it takes to cause that much weight gain. It's water weight or natural body fluctuations. I had a terrible moment and ate half a box of cereal among other things and I didn't even gain a pound.
                lol... you don't pull any punches do ya? Gotta love brutal honesty... there is so little honesty in the world today....

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                • #23
                  I know it wasn't fat that I gained on either occasion but nonetheless it take about 1 to 2 weeks to lose the 2 to 4 lbs i gain on a carby cheat day. Honestly I'm not sure what is going on in my body.

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                  • #24
                    For those who have been primal for a while, occasional cheating probably doesn't do much harm. If it takes weeks of Primal to adapt from sugar-burner to fat-burner, I guess it would takes weeks of SAD cheating to re-adapt back to sugar-burner.

                    But I don't like the idea of a "scheduled" cheat, because that would give too much leeway to the newbies. Just when they've used up their glycogen and are getting ready to adapt to fat-burner, you allow them to stuff up with beer and pizza?!? Horrible idea. Newbies need to be really strict.

                    Look, cheat happens, I know that. But it should NEVER be a scheduled appointment. We should feel guilty about it, ya know?
                    5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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                    • #25
                      This is my lifestyle, and incorporated into that is an occasional bad day. Once a month, maybe once every six weeks. I dont plan it, isnt part of my schedule. it just happens. I have found that if i hit a wall, a bad meal helps jumpstart my motivation and reminds me of how i feel when i dont eat right.

                      about two or three months ago someone that had lost a good deal of weight on another diet told me LIVE MY LIFE. I dont let eating primal get in the way of my happiness and enjoy events. For example, i like to get a drink now and then. a few weeks ago my friends and i went to the Outer Banks for a weekend. I drank beer, had a few chips and when drunk, ate pizza. did i feel guilty? maybe a little but i dont regret it. i didnt plan on eating bad, but i allow myself to indulge in life once and a while. If i didnt drink with my friends would i have wound up in a hot tub with two young topless women enjoying the sunrise? probably not. thank you beer.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by foodiegoneprimal View Post
                        Unfortunately I can't get away with cheating 3 good microbrew stout beers on saturday left me 2lbs heavier. Last month it was 4 gin and tonics that caused a 3lb gain and took two weeks to come back off.
                        I just want to say that your experience isn't all that unusual. I know many people for whom it is true, myself included. I don't know the reason either but it isn't simply a case of CICO for many, many of us. Only the young and naturally lean have the opposite experience and think it is true for us all.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by foodiegoneprimal View Post
                          I know it wasn't fat that I gained on either occasion but nonetheless it take about 1 to 2 weeks to lose the 2 to 4 lbs i gain on a carby cheat day. Honestly I'm not sure what is going on in my body.
                          Do a proteinfast for a day with full body depletion workout followed by an hour of Sauna and you will lose it again within 24 hour! I can easily lose 12 lbs of waterweight from one day to the next by doing so...
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                          • #28
                            I think if you are trying to lose fat, and are on a daily lower-than-maintenance calorie regimen, then a cheat day every 7-10 days of eating over-maintenance calorie levels is probably a good thing. There are also some that recommend that after being on calorie restriction for a few months, that a couple weeks of higher calorie eating can promote fat loss. It's really a hormonal thing, and probably works for many. However, I thing it's still a good idea to do this by eating foods we know are good for us. There are a lot of primal/paleo treats such as fruits, nuts and so on that should satisfy any craving.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by janie View Post
                              Only the young and naturally lean have the opposite experience and think it is true for us all.
                              I'm not sure age has anything to do with it. I am old and was fat and eating SAD almost my whole adult life. And yet, a few drinks is a sure-fire way for me to drop a pound overnight. The less primal, the drinks are, the better they seem to "work". I'm pretty sure it's dehydration though, so I'm not going to recommend it for fat loss, lol.

                              My "cheating" is never planned. It's always an "oh, what the hell" kind of thing. And I never feel guilty, even if what I've eaten or drank has made me feel gross. I am done with letting food make me feel bad about myself.
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                              • #30
                                Yes, you can have "cheat days" but everything needs to be done in moderation without going over the edge!

                                I mean, for every 1-2 weeks of proper training, one day of the weekend can be used as a cheat day in which you can eat an additional pizza or something you crave for.

                                This will help on a psychological level by making yourself staying longer on the diet and also on a physiological level by helping you get pass fat loss plateaus (we all get them).
                                I am not a bodybuilding/fat loss/strength training "guru" BUT I achieved a lean state with ease after learning the correct way to train and eat and I want to HELP YOU achieve the same.

                                Getting fit is also about managing your mindset:
                                http://getfitmindset.com

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