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    So I used to believe a lot of stupid things about health and nutrition. Still do, probably, but certainly less now. I used to think that caloric restriction was the healthiest way to go because digestion produces more free radicals than -non-digestion- and so I should just take a lot of supplements and eat 1500 calories a day, mostly fruit, vegetables and whole grains. I'm a 130 pound 21 year old male, by the way. Embarrassing! Problem is, and I'm sure some of you would have guessed it, now that I have been eating real food for a few months, I CAN'T STOP! I average at least 3000+ calories a day and it's a little worrying. I mean I'm getting awesome nutrition and feeling great with tons of energy and vitality, but I would kind of like to eat less. I don't know when my appetite and fixation on food will subside, it has been months.

    Any tips on good ways to eat less or at least stop being so preoccupied with food? Try as I might I just can't seem to reason with my body that I don't need THAT much food and am always going to provide it with enough nourishment so it could perhaps chill the fuck out and stop pumping the ghrelin.

    Would IFing help? I still eat 3 meals a day and haven't tried it but now I go 7 hours between breakfast and "lunch" and when it's lunch time I'm like a raccoon in a restaurant dumpster. No let's say a hiena fighting off his brothers for some antelope meat, except nobody is competing for my food. sigh

    Also, caloric restriction for weight loss is moronic. But you all know that. I just had to say it again.
    Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

    Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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    Originally posted by Stabby View Post
    So I used to believe a lot of stupid things about health and nutrition. Still do, probably, but certainly less now. I used to think that caloric restriction was the healthiest way to go because digestion produces more free radicals than -non-digestion- and so I should just take a lot of supplements and eat 1500 calories a day, mostly fruit, vegetables and whole grains. I'm a 130 pound 21 year old male, by the way. Embarrassing! Problem is, and I'm sure some of you would have guessed it, now that I have been eating real food for a few months, I CAN'T STOP! I average at least 3000+ calories a day and it's a little worrying. I mean I'm getting awesome nutrition and feeling great with tons of energy and vitality, but I would kind of like to eat less. I don't know when my appetite and fixation on food will subside, it has been months.

    Any tips on good ways to eat less or at least stop being so preoccupied with food? Try as I might I just can't seem to reason with my body that I don't need THAT much food and am always going to provide it with enough nourishment so it could perhaps chill the fuck out and stop pumping the ghrelin.

    Would IFing help? I still eat 3 meals a day and haven't tried it but now I go 7 hours between breakfast and "lunch" and when it's lunch time I'm like a raccoon in a restaurant dumpster. No let's say a hiena fighting off his brothers for some antelope meat, except nobody is competing for my food. sigh

    Also, caloric restriction for weight loss is moronic. But you all know that. I just had to say it again.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVFBK9GhS5Q

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    • #3
      What do I have to be, 300 pounds with degenerative diseases to get some advice? *grumble grumble*. Food obsession is problematic in skinny people too!
      Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

      Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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      • #4
        Stabby... you and I are in the same boat. It is absurd... I just want to eat and eat. Just, yeah, standing in front of the fridge with windmill arms, catching every bit of food that comes out of there. I definitely am annoyed by it too.

        Lets start a club?
        Little Saiyan

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        • #5
          same here

          I too have this obsession with eating. It's mainly at night and on the weekend. I love just eating and eating while watching whatever I so choose. I think this is b/c of stressful weeks and not eating as much during the week. I enjoy it, but it seems somewhat obsessive.

          What do you like to eat a lot of? I tend to start with finger food veggies and mustard and move to almond/coconut milk with nuts and chopped frozen apple or berries and cinnamon.

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          • #6
            As Robb Wolf would say: How do you look, feel, and perform?

            In other words, is it workin' for ya?
            Nightlife ~ Chronicles of Less Urban Living, Fresh from In the Night Farm ~ Idaho's Primal Farm! http://inthenightlife.wordpress.com/

            Latest post: Stop Being Stupid

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ikaika View Post
              Stabby... you and I are in the same boat. It is absurd... I just want to eat and eat. Just, yeah, standing in front of the fridge with windmill arms, catching every bit of food that comes out of there. I definitely am annoyed by it too.

              Lets start a club?
              I'm more inclined to call it a support group!

              Originally posted by RCrown2 View Post
              I too have this obsession with eating. It's mainly at night and on the weekend. I love just eating and eating while watching whatever I so choose. I think this is b/c of stressful weeks and not eating as much during the week. I enjoy it, but it seems somewhat obsessive.

              What do you like to eat a lot of? I tend to start with finger food veggies and mustard and move to almond/coconut milk with nuts and chopped frozen apple or berries and cinnamon.
              All of the above + more!


              Originally posted by BarbeyGirl View Post
              As Robb Wolf would say: How do you look, feel, and perform?

              In other words, is it workin' for ya?
              Looking good, performing good, feeling a bit like I was liberated from a concentration camp except with looking and feeling good. Fixation on food even when I'm full impedes my mental flow and I find it hard to really lose myself in activity without that nagging in the back of my head that I need to eat more. That's the problem.
              Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

              Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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              • #8
                Your young, and I bet your metabolism is revved up and running properly after years of restriction and supplement overdosing. Im not sure whether you are trying to loose weight or gain but regardless eating high fat and healthy foods can run up quite high caloric totals. I wouldn't worry about it and just focus on enjoying your days and listening to your body. Im sure before you focused on obsessing about watching your calories so now your just the opposite--yee haw!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Stabby View Post
                  Fixation on food even when I'm full impedes my mental flow and I find it hard to really lose myself in activity without that nagging in the back of my head that I need to eat more. That's the problem.
                  Ditto.

                  I usually turn to nuts, which REAAAAAALLY rack up. I think a lot of that stems from being super portable and available readily as a primal snack at work. A lot of times i'll do the snacking veggies, too... too many carrots for sure! And holy crap, if I keep grapes in the house, I'm screwed.
                  Little Saiyan

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                  • #10
                    For me this only happens if I eat certain foods. Fruits, nuts, cheese, heavy cream... they all make me insatiable.
                    Try meat, veggies, and tubers for a while and lay off the fancy stuff.

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                    • #11
                      Oh yes the carrots are the worst. They're just so crunchy and yummy. I'll put spices and seasonings on them and they're irresistible. At least I have managed to restrict the fruit.
                      Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

                      Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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                      • #12
                        I don't know where my reply went, but basically I said that... anything on carrots is awesome. Salsa. Peanut butter. HUMMUS!!!

                        And then I step back and wonder when on earth my life has gotten to the point where I feel some sort of enormous guilt for over-eating carrots, hummus, bananas, or apples?!
                        Little Saiyan

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                        • #13
                          You were mis-led to think that they were truly health-promoting, as was I, as were we all. I should wonder when on earth did we as a society lose our natural intuition that meat and healthy fats were nutritional trump-cards and that sacks of sugar were all that good for us. Not that I'm so very down on fruit, chickpeas, and starchy vegetables but if one is as obsessive about optimal health as I am, sugars and omega ratios are not to be taken lightly.

                          You are right in your assessment. It's easy to forget that living in CW land where low-fat, high-sugar ultra processed yogurt and crackers are lauded for their purported girth-reducing properties
                          Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

                          Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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                          • #14
                            Yeah, but still-- I'm trying to find a balance between primal and obsessive, between optimal health and happy simplicity. I don't want to feel guilty for enjoying my homemade, high-protein greek yogurt or (i come back to this once again) wonderful hummus. I want to plant gardens fully of produce, starchy or not!

                            Sugars are important to me-- but I'm completely unaware about the omega ratios. I'd love to know more. It sounds like a bit more measuring than I'd like to allow myself to do. I did count calories for almost a year at one time in my life, and ratios/numbers/percentages became such an obsession that i couldn't eat unless i could find a computer. it was awful. I'm trying to approach Primal in a healthy, careful way that will bring me more enjoyment and health with ease, but I'm about to start logging on thedailyplate again in order to check out my actual macros.
                            Little Saiyan

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                            • #15
                              I am pretty insatiable - EVERYONE makes comments about it. I am 5 ft 6 and 120 lbs - my boyfriend is 6 ft military big guy. First thing he says when I meet his Ma - she eats more than me! Can you believe it. Tsk. I watched him and my best friend have a 'where does she put it conversation'. Blah.

                              I think the reason you are not getting any advice, is: I don't see what the problem is. You complain about being too skinny and yet you want advice about eating good healthy foods that will encourage you to build lean tissue and you feel great. Problem?

                              If you want to eat less... maybe change your fatrotein:carb ratio? I find more fat can help (spoonful of cream / coconut oil / slice of cheese). Yes, IF did help me.

                              If you want to eat the same without gaining weight, drop the dairy and the nuts and the starchy veg (if you indulge). Stick to meat, oils and non starchy veg and you should be fine weight wise.

                              Any help?

                              Lxxx

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