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    This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again | VICE United Kingdom

    Interesting, curious of your thoughts.

  • #2
    It's called nutritionism, the idea that real food could be replaced by a list of chemicals with no lost in healthfulness.

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    • #3
      Another powder diet? - I didn't care to read everything, - yep, people have tried that before and died from doing all-powder diets...
      "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

      - Schopenhauer

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      • #4
        I'm wondering how it could possibly taste good, as he claims it does. It sounds repulsive. Olive Oil and Fish Oil with a bunch of powders mixed in? Blergh. I'm not going to argue with the man's science, but I seriously question the tastiness. And it takes me back to the slop people ate when they were pulled out of the Matrix. :P
        yay!

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        • #5
          Lol, so instead of the headache of cooking delicious food, he now has the headache of mixing up a huge concoction or random powders. How is that easier?

          I think its the dumbest idea ever. The further humans get away from whole foods, the sicker we will be as a species. Mixing together random amounts of vitamins, minerals, EAA's, EFA's and whatever else is in no way close to what you get from whole foods.

          The dudes health will tank at some point i would wager. Its also scary to think if the government starts replacing foods with more nutrition shakes.

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          • #6
            Well he's got a good point here:

            "I don't think we need fruits and veggies, though – we need vitamins and minerals. We need carbs, not bread. Amino acids, not milk. It's still fine to eat these whenever you want, but not everyone can afford them or has the desire to eat them. Food should be optimised and personalised."

            It's the same idea as "what works for you might not work for me". Figure out what works for you, whether that's physically or mentally, or both, and do it. I don't think his plan would work well for anyone who wants to be particularly active though, as it's not just a matter of "eat more of general nutritional needs" to support an active body and gain muscle.

            I wonder if he has lost any unneeded body fat and what the macros are like in the mix.

            [edit] There's a link to his site at the bottom of the article & the macros are 200g carbs, 50g protein, 65g fat and he speaks positively about fat.
            Last edited by namelesswonder; 03-14-2013, 12:24 PM.
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            • #7
              I'll tell ya, though, if they started marketing 'People Chow' it would fly off the shelves. They could have weightloss versions, muscle-building versions, old people, young people, sick people versions... All it would have to be is crunchy, flavorful and cheap. Wouldn't it be awesome to just buy 50 pounds of People Chow for like a month?

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              • #8
                I read his main site just a few hours ago actually. He does say he "eats socially" after a month on his "Soylent" mixture.

                I think he's misguided, in thinking this is something that could save the world, seems to have a good heart, I guess. Good if it works for him and others like him that dislike preparing food and eating it.. but it will never catch on, ever.

                Also, not pooping sounds incredibly unnatural.... you know, if you're able to get past not eating solid foods as being the natural order of things.

                I also disagree that "we don't need milk, we need amino acids" ... sure, but we need to get those from food, that's what nature intended.
                I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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                • #9
                  I see how he feels that it can help people, but I sincerely disagree that having to buy/gather/cook/prepare food is an inconvenience. It's about as much of an inconvenience as sleeping.

                  Cook meals in advance, freeze them, and heat them up as necessary. About the same level of effort as mixing together powders every day. You could even get work done while they're heating -- I do this all the time.

                  I also have to wonder if this guy has ever had real, high-quality food. He might change his mind if he did.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tarek View Post
                    I see how he feels that it can help people, but I sincerely disagree that having to buy/gather/cook/prepare food is an inconvenience. It's about as much of an inconvenience as sleeping.

                    Cook meals in advance, freeze them, and heat them up as necessary. About the same level of effort as mixing together powders every day. You could even get work done while they're heating -- I do this all the time.

                    I also have to wonder if this guy has ever had real, high-quality food. He might change his mind if he did.
                    Yeah, most of my meals are ready in less than a half hour.

                    In his main article, he said something like "imagine if families didn't have to go through the ordeal of making food and eating it and blah blah" and I'm reading it like... that sounds horrible! what would families do instead? talk while sipping soylent? is that any different really? He also argued we've done women a great disservice by making them cooks, or something to that extent.

                    I'm all for fasting though. Seems like a lot of his feel goodness is coming from that and not from his powder diet. It'll be something to keep an eye on, but I won't be impressed after a few months. People have fasted on less for much longer.
                    I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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                    • #11
                      I think it has its place, but I'm too much of a hedonist to see it as much of a happy life.

                      However, if it was used to break a bingeing habit, or when people are really up against it - like maybe interns who do 24 hour shifts, I think it could be a decent inclusion in eating well. It beats the heck out of grabbing something from Popeye's. And for the bingeing person, it might help redirect the habit of using food for comfort. This might also be a way to get nutrition to populations who don't get enough healthy food.

                      And I agree with Otzi that it would be incredibly convenient to be able to get nutrition from people chow on occasion. We all have days when we're busy or feeling under the weather, or just don't feel like cooking.

                      Neither of those would work for me as more than occasional things though. I love good food. Eat, Screw, Love - wasn't that a movie?
                      "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                      B*tch-lite

                      Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by iniQuity View Post

                        I'm all for fasting though. Seems like a lot of his feel goodness is coming from that and not from his powder diet. It'll be something to keep an eye on, but I won't be impressed after a few months. People have fasted on less for much longer.
                        Exactly this. Hes talking about having more energy and better mental focus. Well isnt that exactly what most describe when first switching over to intermittent fasting? Hes eating at most 1500 calories a day so no doubt hes losing fat and his stress hormones are probably high which is giving him his mental focus and energy.

                        Hes delusional if he thinks he can order 30 powders, mix them woth some olive oil and get the same effect as eating a days worth of whole foods.

                        I still dont get how he thinks its more convenient? This guy must have a very warped view of food in general. Maybe hes one of those people that hates to eat? I know a few of them, they cant stand eating and dont get pleasure from the taste of food.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by otzi View Post
                          I'll tell ya, though, if they started marketing 'People Chow' it would fly off the shelves. They could have weightloss versions, muscle-building versions, old people, young people, sick people versions... All it would have to be is crunchy, flavorful and cheap. Wouldn't it be awesome to just buy 50 pounds of People Chow for like a month?
                          They already have this. Its marketed as "cereal".

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                          • #14
                            When asked what's in his concoction, he replied, 'Everything the body needs that we know of, anyway.'

                            That, right there is the problem. We know very little about the complex nutritional interactions that happen in the body when we eat food. He may be a highly educated software engineer, but he is seriously naive and ignorant when it comes to health.

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                            • #15
                              Haven't read it yet, but cooking and eating, done properly, is as much of a social-emotional thing for humans as it is sheer nutrition. And I absolutely do not find the mixing of nutrition powders to be anywhere in the same sensual universe as eating ripe strawberries, or rare steak, or fresh herbs, or awesome chocolate, or...
                              I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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