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the thing is, i eat gluten so infrequently that i honestly don't give a shit. i had 4 slices of pizza one day 2 months ago. i ate some cookies at christmas-time. and 2 weeks ago, instead of drinking liquor i had 2 beers with my buddy to in rememberance on the anniversary of the death of his father. i'm definitely not basing my diet on gluten containing grains, so i think that at most, gluten 10 times per year probably isn't the end of the world
That sounds like real life to me and totally harmless. I drink lots of beer at xmas with no problem, not much since, but will do the same next xmas/birthday/any excuse I can find
Caution! My replies may contain traces of nuts!. My posts are just my opinion based on my experience with the primal way of life, there is no assurance it will work with others in the same way.
Started Primal 15th October 2012
Start weight 200lb
Loss so far 33.8lbs, now 166.2lb
Goal was 168lb's
Actually not. Not trying to find quote, but it was something like: aim for 100% and most likely in real life you will reach 80%
Ah okay. In that case:
Even Mark says 80:20 is fine
"I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.
In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."
I actually do not have a problem with meals ..I would say I am close to 100% (even going out to eat) ..However my problem has always been my snack choices..My household is not completely on board so there is always popcorn ,chips or Cheez-its around the house unfortunately..And unfortunately I do grab a handful if I feel like it...t is what it is and I don't stress out about it
Seems like I read something on here at one point to the effect of...fats in the absence of inflamatory grains, carbs, etc. is ok; but to mix the two kind of compounds the negative effects of both. Guess that's kind of what I was getting at. Am I better going about 60-80% primal or in leiu of fairly strict compliance would it be better to follow a more CW low-fat, healty whole grain type diet?
FWIW since making some changes I've definitely lost some weight, nothing drastic, but clothes are looser. But nothing dramatic. I'm probably about 215 now, and would ideally be in the 190-200 range.
I have a pretty relaxed approach to eating primally, I find that it makes it more sustainable long term for me. I'd say I have about 3-5 cheat meals a month that could be anything from pizza to ice cream or beer. Sometimes it just feels good to have these things socially.
So my question is...is there any harm to be done by not committing to this 100% (80%)? If I eat the fatty, grass fed steak and vegatables for dinner all week, but have a hamburger and pizza on the weekends, am I somehow compounding the negative effects. Or, am I making good headway by simply trying to eliminate as much "bad" stuff as I can? Is all the extra fat, cholesterol, etc. that we now understand to not be so bad somehow made bad by the inclusion of some grain, soy, etc.?
You can do whatever you want really. Nobody is going to know.
I fully support easing into primal, one food improvement at a time...allowing yourself a little wiggle room, not being 'on a diet', making the best choices you can with the resources at your disposal. I support reading the book, experimenting with your own diet and lifestyle, and tweaking PB to make it work for you. And no, you are not undoing the all improvements you've made to 80% of your eating choices, by having the occasional burger and beer. If you've permanently modified your lifestyle to cut all the grains and seed oils you have control over, you move more, sleep more and strive to reduce stress...you've done the bulk of the work. The rest is just tweaking.
What this community has little patience for is people who:
- don't read the book
- attempt "their own version" of PB for 3 or 4 weeks, then join the community just to complain that they haven't lost any weight
- declare that they are doing it 50% at best, and wonder why it doesn't work
- ask questions that can be answered using the search tool or the "start here" tab
- expect miracles