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  • #31
    Hi Eve,

    This is a good post on the links between gall bladder disease and wheat:

    The Link Between Gallbladder Disease and Gluten Sensitivity | Paleo Parents

    "As is so often the case with research linking gluten sensitivity to other health complications, the research is strongest in the context of celiac disease. Approximately 60% of celiac disease sufferers are known to have liver, gallbladder, and/or pancreatic conditions. While some of these conditions may be a result of the malnutrition and/or directly linked to the gut damage that occurs in celiac disease, others are thought to share common genetic factors or have a common immunopathogenesis (i.e., the condition originates from the same immune system attacks on the small intestine also attacking these organs) "
    Last edited by upupandaway; 03-14-2013, 05:15 AM. Reason: Typo!

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    • #32
      Try making primal crab cakes, place your salmon over a big salad with lots of olive oil, make shrimp scampi with garlic and lots of olive oil. Toss veggies you like in olive oil throw them on a baking sheet and cook at 350 till tender. Since you are eating fish you still have lots of options. If i were you I would search through some primal recipie sites and see what catches your eye, cooking doesn't have to be so intimidating. Full fat greek yogurt with berries is an awesome way to start your day.
      Nomnompaleo
      Paleomg
      Foodiegoneprimal (my site)
      All of these have at least a couple of recipies that should catch your eye.

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      • #33
        Get rid of the ready meals...they are your problem

        One of the side effects of sulphites (preservatives) is weight gain......yogurt...jelly.....ready meals...pretty much anyhing processed is loaded with sulphites.....

        You wont lose any weight till you ditch the processed food.....regardless of how many calories and what the food is made of....

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Eve2206 View Post
          Hi

          I'm 5 foot, 56 years old female, and I weigh around 11 stone (couple of pounds under). Been thin all my life till about mid-40's then I gained weight. I gave up karate and running around about the same time though so that didn't help I guess.

          Veggie - yes I was a junk food veggie, cheese, bread, chips (fries) veggie burgers, veggie spaghetti bolognese, etc etc anything easy to cook which usually involved stodge. I've tried cooking with lentils, beans, tofu and so on but don't usually like what ends up on my plate. I really do not have the patience for cooking fiddly veggie food, and I also have to cook something more mainstream for family. Happy with something like a piece of salmon or similar with some greens and a few potatoes. Or just a bit of fish with coleslaw and salad.

          My old diet consisted of (on average), porridge (just water, no milk or sugar), quorn ham and salad sandwich for lunch, and a low fat/diet yoghurt, bar of choc in the afternoon or a piece of fruit, and an evening meal. Then before bed I would usually have ate some sort of junk - maybe toast or a biscuit etc. But looking at this now, I can see that I've never been a big eater, certainly not enough to explain the 33 + extra pounds I'm carrying.

          I'm feeling a bit sorry for myself because the extra weight is making me ill - I just don't carry it well and I have achy knees and feet and hunched shoulders because of it. I had my gall bladder removed 6 years ago, but weight remains the same.

          I prefer keeping the carbs under control as I feel less bloated without them. Low fat just makes me hungry and also doesn't stop me eating rubbish such as low fat candy bars! If I cut carbs and fat I can lose weight but that's not really healthy or sustainable. I genuinely am struggling a bit.

          Thanks
          Just wanted to say that I feel for you and I hope you figure something out. I havent read the whole thread so maybe someone has suggested this - but have you been to the doctor to get your thyroid checked?

          It sounds like you are eating way too little. Im not an expert so I don't really want to advise, but you may be interested in reading the "women who eat a ton without gaining" thread.

          Good luck!
          "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

          In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

          - Ray Peat

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          • #35
            So you want us to help because not eating primally isn't working, but you take offense to the suggestion that you actually learn to eat primally? On the Mark's Daily Apple forums? What are you asking of us?
            The Champagne of Beards

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            • #36
              Well, I've been doing (my version) primal now for nearly a month and I haven't lost any weight or inches.
              Try doing the Mark Sisson version. You'd be amazed at how well Primal works if you're......Primal.
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              • #37
                Jeeze louise guys - give the OP a break. She said she's just started and is doing it incrementally. She understands the concepts and is in a transitional phase. Not everyone can go cold turkey.
                "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                - Ray Peat

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                • #38
                  Do you mean me? Would it have helped if I had added a smiley face? I'm not being mean. There are enough mean people here already. There's nothing wrong with a transitional phase. Everyone goes at their own pace.

                  My point is that it doesn't make sense to wonder why it doesn't work when you aren't even doing it. There are quite a few posts lately from people just starting, who are drinking and eating things like jello and cookies and diet soda or beer, talking about indulgences and cheats already, asking why they aren't losing weight - as if Primal is a quick fix or a temporary diet tool bandaid you can apply and remove whenever you like. It's frustrating for them, but also frustrating for us.
                  be the hair that knots with my hair
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                  • #39
                    It's fair enough to adapt to the Primal lifestyle slowly and gradually, and do small changes, if that's what works for you, but you won't get dramatic or quick results. Subtle changes, yes, and these will build up over time.

                    Applaud you for ditching the grains - stick with it. All grains give me bloating and water retention. You may notice some difference just losing that. Veggie sausages etc often have added wheat, so be careful if you eat those. Don't worry about fibre - you get plenty of that from fruit and veg.

                    Swap the sugar free jelly for some berries, and the vanilla yoghurt for plain with a bit of honey.

                    Try cooking from scratch once a week if it feels too daunting to ditch the ready meals altogether.
                    Last edited by PaleoPanda; 03-14-2013, 06:25 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by little vase View Post
                      Do you mean me? Would it have helped if I had added a smiley face? I'm not being mean. There are enough mean people here already. There's nothing wrong with a transitional phase. Everyone goes at their own pace.

                      My point is that it doesn't make sense to wonder why it doesn't work when you aren't even doing it. There are quite a few posts lately from people just starting, who are drinking and eating things like jello and cookies and diet soda or beer, talking about indulgences and cheats already, asking why they aren't losing weight - as if Primal is a quick fix or a temporary diet tool bandaid you can apply and remove whenever you like. It's frustrating for them, but also frustrating for us.
                      Not specifically you at all (smiley face ). I'm just surprised that people are honing in on the toast and jello rather than the fact that she's not losing on 500 cals per day. Anorexics can drop weight by subsisting on a daily can of coke and a plain bagel.

                      I think the OP should get a check up.
                      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                      - Ray Peat

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                      • #41
                        yb

                        I'd also like to tell you not to be afraid of calories, OP. You need to be nourished and you need calories to heal.

                        When you say jelly, I think that's jello to me, right? That should be the next thing to go. I'm not sure what a Ready Meal is but if you have the time maybe you could try to make your own versions of whatever is in the meals. That way you know the exact ingredients and that it's fresh and not processed.
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                        • #42
                          Honestly, I think that it is going to take a complete overhaul, one meal at a time and it will be hard if you are a picky eater and a non-cook. Don't even think about your macros until you are eating a diet of real, whole foods. My ideas are not "ideal primal"
                          Step 1. Find a breakfast-
                          Unsweetened greek yogurt, fruit and nuts
                          Eggs (you don't like them, try them different ways before your write them off)
                          Fruit and nutbutter
                          Cottage cheese
                          Smoothie of nut butter, unsweetened greek yogurt, fruit. Maybe add in some whey powder for protein.

                          Lunches-
                          Tuna and salad
                          Tuna and veggies
                          tuna and fruit salad
                          Fish and salad
                          Anything from breakfast

                          Dinner- see lunch

                          You must keep trying proteins or you will have a hell of a boring diet. You must prepare foods from scratch. I'd throw out everything in your pantry and go buy a bunch of fruit, vegetables, whatever protein you will eat (unsweetened yogurt, eggs, fish, cottage cheese etc.) and go from there eating 3 meals a day.

                          I have no idea how you can eat VLC and not be starving given your limited options on proteins.

                          http://maggiesfeast.wordpress.com/
                          Check out my blog. Hope to share lots of great recipes and ideas!

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                          • #43
                            Dear all

                            Thanks for your replies. I was particularly surprised about the sulphites - I do read things like this but then tend to forget them! So, from now on, no grains, no processed food. Stop counting for a while. Jelly! I will definitely swap that for berries. I like the sound of that. And thanks for the links for recipes and articles.

                            Doc says there's nothing wrong with my thyroid, so I've stopped asking her to send me for the tests. I suspect I just got into really bad habits of not eating during the day, and now need to stop doing that. I can do salads and salad with cheese is nice anyway. I'm going to avoid ready made veggie food as it's full of cr*p anyway. I will do this - properly this time.

                            Meat thing? Always hated it as a kid. It was only when I was 30 that I realised I didn't have to eat it anymore. Unfortunately I swapped it for cheese pastry - not a good move. But I will stick with the fish and eggs.

                            Thanks again for your advice.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Eve2206 View Post
                              Dear all

                              Thanks for your replies. I was particularly surprised about the sulphites - I do read things like this but then tend to forget them! So, from now on, no grains, no processed food. Stop counting for a while. Jelly! I will definitely swap that for berries. I like the sound of that. And thanks for the links for recipes and articles.

                              Doc says there's nothing wrong with my thyroid, so I've stopped asking her to send me for the tests. I suspect I just got into really bad habits of not eating during the day, and now need to stop doing that. I can do salads and salad with cheese is nice anyway. I'm going to avoid ready made veggie food as it's full of cr*p anyway. I will do this - properly this time.

                              Meat thing? Always hated it as a kid. It was only when I was 30 that I realised I didn't have to eat it anymore. Unfortunately I swapped it for cheese pastry - not a good move. But I will stick with the fish and eggs.

                              Thanks again for your advice.
                              Good on you. Do as you say you're going to, and you will see results - but be patient.

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                              • #45
                                It's pretty apparent that you're fundamentals are bad, and that no amount of tweaking is going to work. Eating toast because you have to eat "something?" That's pretty much disqualifies you right there, sorry. The nuts-and-dairy newbie who can't lose weight is a common occurrence too. You need a complete overhaul.

                                If you're gallbladder is out and you don't like real meat, then your version of primal will be far more advanced than what you'll find from us amateurs on the forums. I recommend that you sign up for professional nutrition help: from Mark or his certified folks, or a primal-friendly nutritionist.
                                5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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