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  • Some thoughts from a still new PBer.

    So it's my second month into PB. I haven't been calculating my nutrients except every few days I tally up my calories to see if it's been crazy. More of than not, it hasn't been.

    I have noticed that sugar is, at least for me, addicting. And I'm not using the word 'addicting' playfully. I'm very serious when I say that I think sugar is the sole cause of my weight gain and binge eating over most of my life. Maybe that's drastic, but for me it makes complete sense and explains a lot of my issues with weight and food.

    I have been reading Good Calories Bad Calories by Gary Taubes and listening to the audiobook for Why We Get Fat. I am also reading Fat Chance by Robert Lustig(The guy who did the Sugar: The Bitter Truth).

    It might seem silly to some long-timers but I only recently realized I have a binge eating disorder. I started doing research on that and found books that suggested years of therapy and basically said that I must have had some traumatic experience that causes me to overeat. So I tried meditation, yoga, talking my feelings out, looking for triggers, avoiding those triggers, trying to come to peace with every bad thing that's ever happened and attempting to become a Buddhist. Now, I don't think any of those things are inherently wrong but they weren't helping.

    So I thought, "WHY do I have BED? Where does it start? Why does it persist? Why is my body driving me to do something that's killing it?"

    I ended up here and it feels like I'm having epiphanies everyday. When I eat a fully primal diet and avoid excessive carbs and completely abstain from sugar I almost consistently eat, without thinking, the amount of calories it would take to lose 1-2 lbs a week for my weight. Of course, abstaining from sugar is easier said than done. Which led me to another epiphany. How many binges have been driven by an insatiable urge to consume sugar? Basically all of them! Otherwise the urge was to consume massive quantities of grains.

    Again, this is probably nothing new to all of you, but I'm feeling pretty enlightened and I think I'm on the path to being free of my BED, as long as I remain primal. By the way, the thought of being primal forever does not frighten me. I am loving it. Right now my issue lies in staying away from sugar and I'm working at it very hard.

    I just wanted to share these things with everyone. I love hearing other people's insight.

  • #2
    Thanks for sharing your journey. I too have eliminated sugar from my diet, but my binging gotos haven't been sweets, they've been pizza and potato chips. Damn, but I love pizza. All kinds of pizza. Everything from real Neopolitan to Chicago deep dish to whatever is on sale in the frozen foods aisle.

    But I've learned it's a no-no and a massive negative trigger...and now it's gone from my life...

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    • #3
      I think all Westerners are addicted to sugar. That's why we Paleo/Primals go through 'carb flu' - those are the withdrawal symptoms and phase. I've been on PB 4 months now and very recently the desire for sugar or 'sweet' is slowly ceasing. Sort of like giving up Heroin. LOL.
      "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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      • #4
        It's not entirely fair of me to do this since you've just started and you're really excited, but

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Timthetaco View Post
          It's not entirely fair of me to do this since you've just started and you're really excited, but
          I probably shouldn't do this since you are very close minded on the subject and you really like to confuse people, but



          http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/ma...anted=all&_r=0
          "It's a great life, if you don't weaken.". John Buchan

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          • #6
            Originally posted by itchy166 View Post
            I probably shouldn't do this since you are very close minded on the subject and you really like to confuse people, but



            http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/ma...anted=all&_r=0
            "nytimes"

            Yeah, you really, really shouldn't.
            Make America Great Again

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
              "nytimes"

              Yeah, you really, really shouldn't.
              Since you posted within one minute of me, you didn't read the article, or watch the 90 min video. So because you don't like where the reporter works, you are going to dismiss the doctor and the (many) of studies he sites?

              Or you are somehow going to argue that hfcs and sugar are good for us lol?
              "It's a great life, if you don't weaken.". John Buchan

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              • #8
                Originally posted by itchy166 View Post
                Since you posted within one minute of me, you didn't read the article, or watch the 90 min video. So because you don't like where the reporter works, you are going to dismiss the doctor and the (many) of studies he sites?

                Or you are somehow going to argue that hfcs and sugar are good for us lol?
                I've read it, and unfortunately, wasted 90 minutes of my life watching that horrible video. I don't like Lustig.

                Sugar is harmless, and actually beneficial. HFCS contains unknown polysaccharides, and has reports saying it contains mercury.
                Make America Great Again

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                • #9
                  Hey Walrus! thanks for sharing your story with us.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by itchy166 View Post
                    I probably shouldn't do this since you are very close minded on the subject and you really like to confuse people, but http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/ma...anted=all&_r=0
                    Your rebuttal to my rebuttal to Gary Taubes's false hypothesis is an article by... Gary Taubes. Well played.

                    I don't think it's necessarily close minded to examine the evidence on both sides of a debate and side with the one which you feel more closely resembles reality. Besides, it's good to be confused every now and again. It can lead a person to seek out the truth and acquire greater knowledge - for instance, that carbohydrates themselves are not especially fattening. (in b4 n=1)

                    Not that anything I'm writing will make a difference anyway. If the OP (or anyone) actually clicks on one or more of the links in my signature, they'll more than likely scoff and close them immediately and silently reassure themselves, "Whatever, GCBC makes total sense." I should know, I did it for several months myself. People come around in their own time (but sometimes not at all) no matter how many assholes constantly scream in their face "CARBOHYDRATES ARE NOT DANGEROUS!"
                    Last edited by Timthetaco; 03-02-2013, 10:50 PM.

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                    • #11
                      All the best on your journeyz, i think its worthwhile noting and exploring factors which influence BED's looking at it as a whole, not just blaming it on a certain food. We have the power and control of everything we eat. Food admittingly is an easy way out of a rut, but fixing and avoiding the ruts will be the key, keeping a healthy relationship with food is necessary, and is the real deal, its very easy to not view food in any other way than it should, and that being a tasty nourishing necessity which allows you to focus on living and enjoying all aspects of life.

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                      • #12
                        Hi Walrus. Sounds like this is working for you. Stay the course. Don't be confused by various agendas on the forum. Success is success and screw the naysayers. Look at Mark and his wife. Look at the success stories. Keep your eye on the ball.

                        Personally I'll never understand anyone who tries to put down a way of eating that is healthy and logical in addition to the other parts of Primal which are just common sense. And anyone who tries to set a relative newby who is having success down a different path is being an asswipe.
                        "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                        B*tch-lite

                        Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for sharing your story with us! What you are saying about sugar I can see reflected in myself too.

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for sharing your story, and please ignore the occasional douche that replies. Most of us are supportive and helpful. Sugar is a difficult thing to overcome and while it is true that it is not a poison, I understand that it is a huge trigger for some that careens into a multitude of bad eating. Good luck.
                            F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                            "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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                            • #15
                              I don't think carbohydrates are inherently bad...it's just that things that tend to be high in them are, I guess, my trigger foods. Sugar, bread...even fruit sometimes.

                              I just know that I'm 21 years old and 260 pounds with a binge eating disorder. Something is wrong. Maybe sugar isn't bad for you, but I certainly can't eat it without going ape shit. Why would I spend my life trying to prove to myself or others otherwise when I could just give it up and be happier and healthier?

                              Anyways, thank you everyone who saw the real message in my post which that I'm finally finding something that is actually working for me. Seeing nutrition from a different point of view is giving me hope that there might be a way of eating that might give me a chance to stop obsessing over food so much.

                              I don't claim to know much about science or nutrition but I am an obese woman who's been dealing with weight problems and eating disorders her whole life and so it's a big deal for me to have found a way of eating that is actually alleviating some of my issues with food. I just thought I'd share that.

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