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    Hi all! This is my first post here, though I've been lurking on MDA for about 2 years now!

    I've been Primal since Spring 2012, and I lost approximately 25 lbs doing so, cleared up my asthma and "chronic" bronchitis. My question is with regards to a belly pooch under my belly button that WILL NOT BUDGE. I have read various threads and comments on various blogs with regards to this and have tried several different things in an attempt to get rid of this annoying pooch. I have tried to go higher on the carbs, low carb, no carb, more starch, no fruit (fructose), intermittent fasting, no fasting, weights, bodyweight exercises... all to no avail. I do consume cheese and yogurt, but that's it for dairy. Currently, I eat about 60% fat, 30% protein, 10% carbs and I am in ketosis. I eat plenty of good fats (tons of sardines per week and eat coconut oil by the spoonful).


    I feel like I am borderline underweight at 5'5 and 115 lbs - I can see my ribs and clavicles and my hip bones are jutting out like crazy... but I just have a layer of fat from about right underneath my breasts to about an inch or two under my belly button (but curiously it disappears right above my pubic area). I know, I know... women are supposed to carry fat in certain areas for childbearing etc (I have no kids), but the reason that this bothers me so much is that I KNOW that it was flat before I gained the 25 or so lbs. I just don't know what to do at this point and it's seriously frustrating me. Is this a hormonal thing? I have been on birth control since I was 16 (I'm 23 now).

    Does any one else have this experience? Has any one found anything that worked for them? Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

    Kelly

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    YES!
    Whether you're underweight, normal weight, overweight, ex-overweight, had babies or never had babies...the lower belly just will not do what you want it seems. At my smallest my hip bones stuck out, but I still had that lower belly pooch.
    I wish I had some good advice for how to get rid of it, but I'm afraid I don't. All I can do is assure you that you are not alone in your struggle. We feel your pain.

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    • #3
      Welcome to the forum, Kelly.

      There was a very similar thread recently:
      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread77565.html

      There are many different views presented in the thread. Some say to just eat at a defecit until the fat is gone. Others say to forget about it; it's simply part of being a woman to carry a certain amount of fat. Personally, I find a nice curve in that area quite attractive as I stated in that thread. But you can reach your own conclusions based on all the information of course. Good luck!

      Edited to add: After reading your post more closely, I would not really recommend losing weight since you are already pretty small and lean elsewhere on your body. Maybe you are experiencing the FILO (first in, last out) effect. Most people notice that the first place they gain fat is also the last place that it leaves. If you aren't already, maybe try staring weight/resistance training. Lifting barbells can do amazing things.
      Last edited by yodiewan; 03-01-2013, 11:52 AM. Reason: Read OP more closely

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      • #4
        Originally posted by yodiewan View Post
        Welcome to the forum, Kelly.

        There was a very similar thread recently:
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread77565.html

        There are many different views presented in the thread. Some say to just eat at a defecit until the fat is gone. Others say to forget about it; it's simply part of being a woman to carry a certain amount of fat. Personally, I find a nice curve in that area quite attractive as I stated in that thread. But you can reach your own conclusions based on all the information of course. Good luck!
        Thanks for that link! Very informative. I've just started (day 3) PB and started exercising 3 weeks ago. I was pushing myself to do situps and it killed my back. I worked in nursing and hurt my back and since then my back cannot handle that stress. Glad to have seen this so I can move on to things that will help now.

        Krsn89: good luck! I have 4 kids and have an awful pooch so I feel your pain.

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        • #5
          Ah, yes. The pooch. My dad (who was quite thin) also had one so i'm on the verge of giving up. However, the one thing i am about to try that you may want to as well, is cutting dairy. I know you don't eat a lot of it, but it may make a difference.
          BUT given how you said you are almost underweight I'm a little apprehensive about suggesting that. If you do cut dairy make sure you sub the calories. That will be the best way to figure out if it's dairy.

          I'm going off the stuff until March 18 when i have to go out of town...we shall see!

          But the only time I lost some of the pooch was post=breakup and i barely ate for a month. Not exactly healthy and i'm totally not willing to kill myself over a little pooch! Starting to just like it there to be honest!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by krsn89 View Post
            I feel like I am borderline underweight at 5'5 and 115 lbs
            You are.

            115 is at the low end of the scale for your height. You're probably low in muscle mass which would otherwise give that (and all areas) some structure and shape. I'd suggest a heavy lifting program focusing on the compound lifts. Check out the fitness section here, or even the female section on bodybuilding.com.

            Also yeah, situps won't do much besides hurt your back... I second the link posted above, lots of good advice in there.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by yodiewan View Post
              Welcome to the forum, Kelly.

              There was a very similar thread recently:
              http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread77565.html

              There are many different views presented in the thread. Some say to just eat at a defecit until the fat is gone. Others say to forget about it; it's simply part of being a woman to carry a certain amount of fat. Personally, I find a nice curve in that area quite attractive as I stated in that thread. But you can reach your own conclusions based on all the information of course. Good luck!

              Edited to add: After reading your post more closely, I would not really recommend losing weight since you are already pretty small and lean elsewhere on your body. Maybe you are experiencing the FILO (first in, last out) effect. Most people notice that the first place they gain fat is also the last place that it leaves. If you aren't already, maybe try staring weight/resistance training. Lifting barbells can do amazing things.
              Thanks yodiewan, and the other posters here. I hope it doesn't sound like I'm being petty fretting about something so minor but it really, really bothers me. And it's reassuring to know that I'm not alone. I'll try some of the suggestions in the other thread... Yes, I'm pretty scared of losing weight considering I am PAST my goal weight (120 originally). I guess I should try no dairy for a bit as well - I never really thought about giving that up because it didn't affect me like other foods but obviously it's worth a try. I'm hoping to start Crossfit soon as well!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nivanthe View Post
                You are.

                115 is at the low end of the scale for your height. You're probably low in muscle mass which would otherwise give that (and all areas) some structure and shape. I'd suggest a heavy lifting program focusing on the compound lifts. Check out the fitness section here, or even the female section on bodybuilding.com.

                Also yeah, situps won't do much besides hurt your back... I second the link posted above, lots of good advice in there.
                Thanks for your post. I know, I have already surpassed my goal weight unintentionally. I'm hoping to start Crossfit soon so I hope that helps!

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                • #9
                  Lipo is what you need. This is exactly the situation where it works best, where a person has reached their ideal weight but still has a stubborn spot or two of fat.

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                  • #10
                    I would agree some sort of weight training to at least tone you up in that area. Just dieting alone can lead to a very skinny frame with no real healthy shape to it.
                    Caution! My replies may contain traces of nuts!. My posts are just my opinion based on my experience with the primal way of life, there is no assurance it will work with others in the same way.

                    Started Primal 15th October 2012
                    Height 5'9"
                    Start weight 200lb
                    Loss so far 33.8lbs, now 166.2lb
                    Goal was 168lb's

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nivanthe View Post
                      You are.

                      115 is at the low end of the scale for your height. You're probably low in muscle mass which would otherwise give that (and all areas) some structure and shape. I'd suggest a heavy lifting program focusing on the compound lifts. Check out the fitness section here, or even the female section on bodybuilding.com.

                      Also yeah, situps won't do much besides hurt your back... I second the link posted above, lots of good advice in there.
                      It depends on her frame and size, I'm 5'4 and 100 and I look fine. But if she feels she looks too thin, then she probably has a more normal frame.

                      What helped me with the pooch was a lot of cardio and IF. I didn't lose weight but the area gradually reduced.
                      F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                      "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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                      • #12
                        Kelly, so long as you have reasonably good health, consider yourself... beautiful. We all carry a little excess here and there (I have flipping love handles which drive me crazy because I can't shift them!), but please don't obsess too much about it.

                        If you feel good, that's what's most important. Please know that, whatever your shape, you are wonderful and completely... unique. Fantastic and beautiful. Don't be sidelined by these super thin models in the magazines, being healthy means more than looking healthy.

                        Just my opinion, but really - so long as you're happy and feel healthy, sod everyone else!

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                        • #13
                          Lower your stress.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Damiana View Post
                            What helped me with the pooch was a lot of cardio and IF. I didn't lose weight but the area gradually reduced.
                            The IF is good because it forces the body to burn fat from stores on a daily basis, but then a good feeding allows body to restack it in the right places.

                            The other point to remember is it takes us about 4 years to readjust the lipid profile in our cell membranes and fat stores after dietary adjustment. So if like most people you were raised by health conscious parents you most liokely had an overload of Omega 6 oils and it will take a while to get the balance back of saturated and monounsaturated.

                            Don't get too extreme, focus primarily on good health and push the vanity aside for a while.
                            "There are no short cuts to enlightenment, the journey is the destination, you have to walk this path alone"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SugarSugar View Post
                              Thanks for that link! Very informative. I've just started (day 3) PB and started exercising 3 weeks ago. I was pushing myself to do situps and it killed my back. I worked in nursing and hurt my back and since then my back cannot handle that stress. Glad to have seen this so I can move on to things that will help now.

                              Krsn89: good luck! I have 4 kids and have an awful pooch so I feel your pain.
                              Try pilates instead of sit ups or something similar. It srelaly works your trunk beautifully. I've been doing pilates with an awesome teacher -- even just mat pilates -- and it's awesome.

                              I've been doing postural work (realigning my posture), and it makes a huge difference on that area (and on back pain). Pilates and yoga really facilitate this, but for you, I would start with pilates.

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