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  • #16
    Originally posted by meloroaster View Post
    This will likely still keep you full without reducing anything drastically given your caloric needs.
    Wait, you're saying she should eat less fat and protein to feel full? That seems like the opposite of true.

    Unless you're saying she should physically fill up her stomatch with nutrition-poor things like leafy greens just to have a distended stomach?

    I think that being full is about much more than the physical contents of your stomach.
    Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

    Griff's cholesterol primer
    5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
    Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
    TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
    bloodorchid is always right

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    • #17
      I completely agree with the suggestions to focus right now on really, really healthy eating and optimal health overall ...not weight loss.

      Get into the groove of this way of eating (and living) and when the time is right, then you can tweak your portions and ratios.
      Sandra
      *My obligatory intro

      There are no cheat days. There are days when you eat primal and days you don't. As soon as you label a day a cheat day, you're on a diet. Don't be on a diet. ~~ Fernaldo

      DAINTY CAN KISS MY PRIMAL BACKSIDE. ~~ Crabcakes

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      • #18
        Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
        Wait, you're saying she should eat less fat and protein to feel full? That seems like the opposite of true.
        Unless you're saying she should physically fill up her stomatch with nutrition-poor things like leafy greens just to have a distended stomach?
        I think that being full is about much more than the physical contents of your stomach.
        FYI: Zach is one of the pro-carb Perfect health potato-hack warriors who recently infiltrated the MDA forums.
        All his postings should be viewed in that light.
        I guarantee he will reply by calling me "the most dilusional poster on the board." Take it however you wish.

        That said, I agree that the OP needs more veggies. 54 carbs a day is barely enough for one person, much less three.
        5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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        • #19
          Actually, I was responding to meloroaster, who suggested cutting fat and protein and replacing it with salad.

          I have Zach on ignore, so I didn't even see what he posted. Now that I've gone back and read it, I don't have a problem with what he said. His post seemed very reasonable (except for the misinformation cautioning her not to avoid sugar. The OP should get plenty of carbs from vegetables like potatoes on a normal day).
          Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

          Griff's cholesterol primer
          5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
          Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
          TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
          bloodorchid is always right

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          • #20
            Originally posted by oxide View Post

            That said, I agree that the OP needs more veggies. 54 carbs a day is barely enough for one person, much less three.
            Ok, THAT made sense, in a way it hadn't before. I find myself eating the coconut butter and wanting cream...I think for the carbs. Time to try some more carbs in other, less calorie dense form, and see if that leads to actually eating less. Staying grain free for sure, as grains make me MEAN and lazy, but some extra veggies sound yummy. I find right now my body really wants them...I could eat two bags of veggies a day easily, and love it. And add in an apple or some more berries and see where I end up.

            I know everyone says don't worry about it, nursing will take care of it. WEll..I've been nursing for over 3 years straight and managed to gain weight just fine that way....and don't want to keep doing that. For my health I need to get the weight off. But yeah, I also need to make yummy healthy milk. So...more veggies, small amount of fruit, more water, and see what happens.

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            • #21
              If you want more carbs, go for things like potatoes, rice, kumara, carrots etc.
              Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

              Griff's cholesterol primer
              5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
              Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
              TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
              bloodorchid is always right

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ktgrok View Post
                So...more veggies, small amount of fruit, more water, and see what happens.
                Sounds like a great strategy. Try pouring yourself a drink just before you sit down to nurse. Good luck.
                Annie Ups the Ante
                http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread117711.html

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ktgrok View Post
                  ok..so more water...yeah..that sounds like a good idea. My daughter is constantly stealing my drink, lol.

                  cosleeping..does passing out in my chair nursing count? Sometimes I bring him to bed, but i end up hanging off the end of the bed, and my back feels better after sleeping in the chair than it does nursing on my side, believe it or not. My neck...that's another story. My chiropracter says I have mommy neck. Not helping is that the 3 year old started sleep walking when her brother was born...so more nights than not she is wandering, talking to herself in her sleep, and needs to be guided back to a safe sleeping spot. I'd sell a kidney for a nap right now.

                  So yeah, I'm willing to bet sometimes I'm turning to food in a desperate attempt to use that energy to replace sleep.
                  I had issues with my neck while breastfeeding and co-sleeping, now its OK, so I think go to your chiro as often as you are able to get through it, it will help.

                  Originally posted by Zach View Post
                  This is a time for your children to grow, not a time for you to try and lose fat. Eat to appetite, eat carbs, eat nutritionally dense foods. You want your breast milk to be as nutritionally dense as possible. Also remember breast milk is over half sugar so dont completely avoid it in your diet.
                  I do agree with the bolded part, not about the sugar, but others already beat me to the zach thing
                  I did lose weight while breastfeeding, but on SAD, but I also did not feel great, which is more important to me.
                  Do you have a lot to lose?

                  I think its better just to focus on getting good quality food into you as much as you needs, higher fats to keep you satiated.
                  And try to walk when you can without making yourself more tired.
                  I think its the best you can do for now, the weight will come off eventually

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                  • #24
                    ktgrok, I also had serious, serious trouble losing while breastfeeding. I think a part of it for me was that because of all the "dieting" I had done over the years, my hunger cues were so messed up and I thought it was just a free-for-all most of the time! For me, doing calorie counting on myfitnesspal really helped. If you do a search for breastfeeding, it will add extra calories for you. I don't think it's a good idea to restrict calories when you're nursing such a little one and your supply is on the line, but I also know what a drag it is to hold on to that baby weight.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by oxide View Post
                      FYI: Zach is one of the pro-carb Perfect health potato-hack warriors who recently infiltrated the MDA forums.
                      All his postings should be viewed in that light.
                      I guarantee he will reply by calling me "the most dilusional poster on the board." Take it however you wish.

                      That said, I agree that the OP needs more veggies. 54 carbs a day is barely enough for one person, much less three.
                      Originally posted by oxide View Post
                      90 grams of carbs is still not all that high. I don't have kids so I don't know this, but ISTM that breast feeding requires energy just as if you were exercising. Mark's carb curve allows up to 150g, doesn't it? You could probably eat more carbs and be fine as long as you avoid the bad oils and the wheat and corn. If you want to find your limit, you could carb up until you gain a little weight, and then stay below that level.

                      You know, lately I've been binging on sugar -- quite badly, in fact. Yet I don't seem to be gaining any weight. Or, it seems that the exact moment I gain a pound, I just get tired of the sugar and go back to eating primally again and lose the pound. The up and down cycle takes about a week. I can't figure out what's going on.
                      You are indeed delusional, among other things. Stick with the sugar, it will help.

                      As for the other carbophobes, sugar is what kids run off of. There is a reason breastmilk has so much of it. Just because your metabolically deranged, dont take it out on your kids by restricting perfectly healthy foods.

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                      • #26
                        What and people who are low carb primal don't produce milk?
                        Yeah whatever.

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                        • #27
                          I remember how hungry I was when I was nursing my daughter. Every 2 hours for 2 years, I was exhausted and hungry all the time. I would get up and eat spoonfuls of peanut butter, ravenous in the middle of the night. That was 10 years ago and way before LC and Primal for me. I think it's OK to eat a lot now for you, just keep it clean.

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                          • #28
                            EAT girl EAT - this is not a time to calorie restrict............
                            ..........actually I will qualify - eat good quality foods. Carbs, fats and proteins !
                            Just enjoy this time with your beautiful children. They are little for such a short time !!!!!!!!
                            "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                            ...small steps....

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by NZ primal Gwamma View Post
                              EAT girl EAT - this is not a time to calorie restrict............
                              ..........actually I will qualify - eat good quality foods. Carbs, fats and proteins !
                              Just enjoy this time with your beautiful children. They are little for such a short time !!!!!!!!
                              Yes this

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by NZ primal Gwamma View Post
                                EAT girl EAT - this is not a time to calorie restrict............
                                ..........actually I will qualify - eat good quality foods. Carbs, fats and proteins !
                                Just enjoy this time with your beautiful children. They are little for such a short time !!!!!!!!
                                So. Much. Thiiiiiiis.
                                Dark chocolate and coffee, running through my veins...

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