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  • #16
    Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
    MCT's increase the metabolic rate, what, about 3%? How is ingesting 100 calories for a 3% metabolic increase better than not eating empty, nutritionless calories? They may have an advantage versus olive oil as it's straight fat that's stored if not immediately burn, but so what? A potato would have more of a metabolic boost. So would meat and eggs due to protein content. Why not just eat real food and when not hungry simply don't eat?
    It also has an appetite suppressing effect. I agree that food would be better but if one was actively trying to lose fat rapidly the. It would be a good choice over other supplements.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Zach View Post
      It also has an appetite suppressing effect. I agree that food would be better but if one was actively trying to lose fat rapidly the. It would be a good choice over other supplements.
      Raw honey is more nutritious than MCT oil (or coconut oil for that matter), increases the metabolic rate more than MCT's and also has an appetite suppressing effect. Why not eat honey instead? It's also cheaper, tastes better, isn't processed (unlike MCT oil) and is more readily available.
      Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
        Raw honey is more nutritious than MCT oil (or coconut oil for that matter), increases the metabolic rate more than MCT's and also has an appetite suppressing effect. Why not eat honey instead? It's also cheaper, tastes better, isn't processed (unlike MCT oil) and is more readily available.
        Argumentative much? MCT and coconut oil is proven to raise metabolism and help with fat loss. its proven to suppress appetite. It also is a healthy saturated fat that helps displace PUFA and supports thyroid. I see no reason to avoid it if fat loss is your goal.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by dogfuel View Post
          I appreciate the responses but maybe wasn't clear about the reason for my question.... mct oil has a dramatic impact on energy level and fat burning (for me)... CO does not. I thought they were the same thing. I hate that it flies in the face of many of the themes on this forum and I did not want to accept it fir a year, but it is true. Why?
          Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
          They're not the same thing. MCT is a highly refined oil where the MCT's are extracted from coconut oil. You won't find MCT oil anywhere in nature - it is a creation in a laboratory.
          I think we can get all hung up on the fact that Grok wouldn't have had MCT oil or we can do what the OP is doing and go with what works.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Zach View Post
            Argumentative much? MCT and coconut oil is proven to raise metabolism and help with fat loss. its proven to suppress appetite. It also is a healthy saturated fat that helps displace PUFA and supports thyroid. I see no reason to avoid it if fat loss is your goal.
            Not eating has been proven to help with fat loss more than refined oils. I'll argue that refined oils are the best thing to halt fat loss since you immediately switch off your fat metabolism from burning stored fat to dietary fat, and since fats are the least thermogenic of all the macronurients, they do the least to boost your metabolism. You're better off eating white sugar from a metabolic stance per calorie.

            Coffee has been proven to suppress appetite. Why not skip food and drink coffee? Honey is a healthy sugar that better supports thyroid than coconut oil because it is high in fructose and fructose upregulates CO2 production where fat suppresses it, and since sugars are stored as saturated and omega-9 monounsaturated fats in tissues, it also displaces PUFA.

            The point is, you'd do better saving those calories for real food, or skipping them altogether than eating isolated, nutritionless, refined oils. Diet hacks are crap. Formulate a solid plan. It doesn't matter what you say - I'm going to argue the opposite because hacks just don't work. If you think MCT oil works but honey doesn't, that makes no sense because it's more advantageous. If you want to accelerate fat burning in the AM, drink black coffee and move around more and fast through breakfast on some days. If you want to accelerate fat burning at night, eat an earlier dinner so you are deeper into a fasted state upon rest. HGH levels are highest at night and accelerate fat burning, so going to bed hungry is a way to accelerate that.
            Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 02-27-2013, 04:46 PM.
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            • #21
              Its not a hack, its a supplement thats proven to help. We are talking 100-200 calories here. It can easily be added to a well balanced and thought out diet plan.

              You are talking about all these other strategies for fat loss, fasting, caffiene, no late night eating, sugar. I agree that all those can be used strategically for fat loss just like a tbs or two of coconut oil.
              Last edited by Zach; 02-27-2013, 05:10 PM.

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              • #22
                MCTs are even more of an ideal energy source than glucose. They don't require bile to be broken down, nor carnitine transport to enter the mitochondria, thus they have numerous benefits on the mitochondria, liver, thyroid, as well as suppression of stress induced enzymes, stimulation of energy production in fat cells, etc;

                Coconut oil is hardly nutritionless, just because it lacks vitamins and minerals, its health benefits are numerous. I always get at least 2 tsp of coconut oil per day.

                Link is relevant to OP, as it shows the difference between MCT and LCT(olive oil)

                Medium-chain triglycerides increase energy expendit... [Obes Res. 2003] - PubMed - NCBI

                Basically, olive oil is junk and worthless
                Last edited by Derpamix; 02-27-2013, 06:57 PM.
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                • #23
                  Thanks to everyone for the information and opinions!

                  Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                  They're not the same thing. MCT is a...
                  I get that, what I meant was that I thought mct oil was included, in the same state, in CO (along w other things that can be refined out in the process of creating refined mct oil. I have a short response to all the suggestions "Why not do/eat _ instead?" Because mct oil works better for me and seems to have no adverse effects or significant conflicts w the way I choose to eat and live.

                  I realize that I did not control every variable in my experiment, I realize that Grok didn't buy or refine mct oil, I realize oil is not (usually) a food and I realize there are other approaches.... none of this changes my decision.

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