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  • Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
    Okay, here is breakfast. Rare steak and potato.
    Pre-assembly:

    Here's how it barely fits in my bowl:

    My chicken breakfasts and lunches are similar, maybe not as big of potatoes.
    I'm not saying that's not a decent amount of fuel, but add a 6-egg omelet somewhere in there if you want to claim to eat "a ton"
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    • Originally posted by PaleoMom View Post
      The point of this is definitely to saturate myself with nutrients. One thing that moved me towards thinking this way was to look at the nutrient levels on chronometer when logging in my foods. It is just impossible to maintain a caloric deficit and meet all the RDA's.
      Hey, just a suggestion, but awhile back I bought a juicer, and had a rip
      roaring good time figuring out juice combinations that would give me
      the biggest vitamin bang for my buck for the least amount of calories.

      On cronometer, for my calorie allowance for the day (think it was 1500 or something) I made
      a juice with a ton of veggies (no fruit) that turned out to be 250 calories and 96% of my RDA for
      the day! 250 cals! That's nuthin'!

      So just saying, maybe if you started your day off with a veggie juice, OR, made one in the morning
      and then drank a little with each meal, you'd be saturated with nutrients sooner and therefore
      not WANT to actually "eat" to get the nutrients.

      That sounds kinda convoluted... hmm, hope I'm not being confusing...

      Anyway, it'd be interesting to see that if you had all those vitamins saturating your
      cells, if you'd even be "less hungry" cuz your body wasn't seeking them out by being
      too hungry.

      In any event, good luck with your experiment!!!

      Julie

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      • Originally posted by PaleoMom View Post

        With all the fertility talk I looked up the temperature cycle. I was all excited to see 98.0 this morning (another .2 increase) but now I see that I started tracking right at ovulation and this is exactly when I should be going up anyway. I suppose my temperatures won't mean too much until I have a month of notes to look back on.
        PaleoMom, I've been curious about my temperature for awhile now, as it's always on the low side (never in the 98s). I've read conflicting info. about the best way to take your temperature. I have a digital that I was using under the tongue, and it always reads very low, usually in the 96s. I recently got a better quality thermometer that is mercury free and it instructs to take the temperature in the armpit upon first waking up. I've gotten consistently higher readings w/this one.
        Just curious what kind of thermometer you use and what time(s) during the day do you check your temp?

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        • Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
          I'm not saying that's not a decent amount of fuel, but add a 6-egg omelet somewhere in there if you want to claim to eat "a ton"
          Well, there's still lunch and dinner...
          Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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          • Originally posted by Happy Paleo Girl View Post
            PaleoMom, I've been curious about my temperature for awhile now, as it's always on the low side (never in the 98s). I've read conflicting info. about the best way to take your temperature. I have a digital that I was using under the tongue, and it always reads very low, usually in the 96s. I recently got a better quality thermometer that is mercury free and it instructs to take the temperature in the armpit upon first waking up. I've gotten consistently higher readings w/this one.
            Just curious what kind of thermometer you use and what time(s) during the day do you check your temp?
            I have been using a digital one under the tough before getting out of bed. I do have a basal glass one though too, I will experiment with it in the armpit and under tongue and see how the number compare to the digital one (so much easier!).
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            • Originally posted by InSearchOfAbs View Post
              Hey, just a suggestion, but awhile back I bought a juicer, and had a rip
              roaring good time figuring out juice combinations that would give me
              the biggest vitamin bang for my buck for the least amount of calories.

              On cronometer, for my calorie allowance for the day (think it was 1500 or something) I made
              a juice with a ton of veggies (no fruit) that turned out to be 250 calories and 96% of my RDA for
              the day! 250 cals! That's nuthin'!

              So just saying, maybe if you started your day off with a veggie juice, OR, made one in the morning
              and then drank a little with each meal, you'd be saturated with nutrients sooner and therefore
              not WANT to actually "eat" to get the nutrients.

              That sounds kinda convoluted... hmm, hope I'm not being confusing...

              Anyway, it'd be interesting to see that if you had all those vitamins saturating your
              cells, if you'd even be "less hungry" cuz your body wasn't seeking them out by being
              too hungry.

              In any event, good luck with your experiment!!!

              Julie
              Yes, and this would then bring us to the Joel Furlman diet. Good idea, however I don't have a juicer and wow that can be expensive for all the produce. I'm curious, do you remember what you put in your juice that gave you that kind of nutrition?
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              • Originally posted by PaleoMom View Post
                Yes, and this would then bring us to the Joel Furlman diet. Good idea, however I don't have a juicer and wow that can be expensive for all the produce. I'm curious, do you remember what you put in your juice that gave you that kind of nutrition?
                Yeah, but Joel wants you to eat it, not drink it.

                That'd take days, and then your jaw would bust off, fall into the garbage
                disposal and get ruined beyond repair. Snort.

                I had a crapton of stuff: spinach, kale, rainbow chard, carrot, celery, red leaf
                lettuce, parsley, and a buncha other green leafy stuff I don't remember.

                It *was* spendy, but I bought waaaay to much to begin with, thinking I wouldn't get
                much juice out of those things, but boy howdy did I.

                That produce lasted an entire week for one juice a day.

                If you ever did get a juicer, you could even pre-plan on cronometer, how much
                of each thing you'd have to juice to get the right amount of nutrients without
                even buying the produce yet.

                That's what I should have done so I didn't over-buy... even though I ate/drank it
                all, it took up lots of room in the fridge.

                Next time I won't buy so much, and I'll try pre-planning myself, cuz I don't think I
                would have had to get so much variety, as most leafy greens have lotsa vitamins
                and minerals that the other ones do as well.

                My vitamin K was through the roof! Ha!

                Julie

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                • I do have a vitamix. It would be a complete food juice, which is probably better. Maybe not though, so much fiber! I might try this as a supplement to aid me through this first leg of the experiment. Might help prevent/lessen some of the weight gain I'm anticipating.

                  Long term I think eating the whole food is best. Juicing seems like a great tool to use in certain situations but perhaps not as a focus or crutch. This certainly could be one of the times where it might be helpful.
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                  • Yeah, I wasn't suggesting ONLY juicing, but juicing in addition to eating your
                    regular Real Food.

                    Say there was one day when you didn't WANT to eat a trough of vegetables, so you
                    juiced them and drank them instead.

                    That's all.

                    As far as the vitamix goes, you could certainly do that as well, but the people that
                    actually juice for the vitamins, minerals, but not a "meal" say that it's the fiber
                    that keeps your stomach focused on digesting, than your cells focusing on getting
                    the speedy delivery of the nutrients without the hassle of the fiber.

                    My 250 cal drink of veggie juice was in addition to my other 1800 calories of Real
                    Food.

                    Anyway, good luck with your plan and keep us posted how it goes.

                    Julie

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                    • Thanks Juile. I didn't think you were saying not to eat real food too, I was just commenting on how those (not here) who are so into juicing and seem to stop eating actual food

                      Body temp was up .2 again today. I'm curious how much of this is due to post ovulation and how much is my metabolism increasing. Time will tell. I tried my glass thermometer out this morning. I had thought is was by the bed, but it turned out to be in the bathroom, so I did do some movement to get it. That one read 98.6 orally! I did the digital one again to see if it had changed and it had only gone up .1 to 98.3. My armpits with the digital read 97.1 and 97.8. I don't think armpit temps are very accurate though. I also gained another .5 pound, no change in waist.
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                      • I am 49, menopausal, and lost 1-1.5 pounds a week last year for a total of 60 pounds lost eating about 2000 calories a day. I have maintained that loss for 4 months eating 2500-2800 daily, mostly 80/20. I was amazed how many carbs I could eat, mostly potatoes and blueberries. I was so happy to have made it through the Holiday season intact, but somehow Valentine's day got me and I started eating sugar. Chocolate, ice cream. Gained 5 pounds in 2 weeks. So FOR ME, I can eat a lot, but I cannot eat sugar! I'm back off the sugar and hope I have learned my lesson.

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                        • Hi Windy Pass Wheeler

                          It is refreshing to hear someone actually eating a good amount of calories.
                          It appears that a lot of the women on this website eat very low calories and I'm not sure that is a healthy approach short or long-term.

                          If you do not mind sharing what does a typical day of food look like for you and what are your activity levels?

                          Peace x

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                          • Yes, I'm curious too.
                            Originally posted by Peace x View Post
                            Hi Windy Pass Wheeler

                            It is refreshing to hear someone actually eating a good amount of calories.
                            It appears that a lot of the women on this website eat very low calories and I'm not sure that is a healthy approach short or long-term.

                            If you do not mind sharing what does a typical day of food look like for you and what are your activity levels?

                            Peace x

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                            • Originally posted by PaleoMom View Post
                              Thanks Juile. I didn't think you were saying not to eat real food too, I was just commenting on how those (not here) who are so into juicing and seem to stop eating actual food

                              Body temp was up .2 again today. I'm curious how much of this is due to post ovulation and how much is my metabolism increasing. Time will tell. I tried my glass thermometer out this morning. I had thought is was by the bed, but it turned out to be in the bathroom, so I did do some movement to get it. That one read 98.6 orally! I did the digital one again to see if it had changed and it had only gone up .1 to 98.3. My armpits with the digital read 97.1 and 97.8. I don't think armpit temps are very accurate though. I also gained another .5 pound, no change in waist.
                              Oh good! I was wondering if you were thinking I was one of those juice freaks... har!

                              Hey, with regard to the thermometer, this is going to sound absolutely disgusting and just
                              plain WRONG, but, well, Back in the Day, when I was trying to Git Myseff in a Family Way,
                              I also took my temp all the time, but well, I would put it someplace that was "always
                              warm". No variation THERE... and no, it wasn't in my rear end, but close.

                              Now that I've grossed myself out all over again, and probably this entire board, I will have
                              my husband give me 50 lashings just for uttering the words.

                              BUT! In all honesty, it's fast, easy and VERY ACCURATE.


                              ~Anonymous

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                              • Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
                                Okay, here is breakfast. Rare steak and potato.
                                Pre-assembly:

                                Here's how it barely fits in my bowl:

                                My chicken breakfasts and lunches are similar, maybe not as big of potatoes.
                                That *is* a ton of food for a woman of her age/height as a non athlete.
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