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  • #46
    Back in my calories only days, I had pretty much given up peanut butter completely because it just wasn't delicious enough for how many calories it had. One day shopping, I notice reduced fat peanut butter. I pulled the reduced fat off the shelf and also the full fat. Yep, less fat. Calories - almost identical.

    So, whether they're getting it from fat or added cornstarch, or sugar, eating low fat does absolutely nothing if you don't take the time to see if the product is really an improvement.

    Alton Brown once showed that if you fry at the correct temp for both the oil and the food you're preparing, you don't pick up that much oil in your food. I forget what he was frying (and of course he was using "healthy" vegetable oil), but it was a lot. He measured the oil left in the pan, and there wasn't that much gone. However, he's a food person, and most of us don't want to look up foods and temps for each meal. Also, anything one doesn't prepare with one's own hands is most likely going to have the magic salt+fat+sugar thing so you eat more of it.

    I think there's an old thread here somewhere that showed that Fage yogurt is one of the few fat free or low fat prepared foods that actually doesn't add carbs when they take out the fat. So, out of the gazillion foods out there that have been re-recipe'd (not a real word) to be able to put 0% fat on the label, there's at least one that did it right. I've never seen another, but there must be some out there.

    Anyway, how could Primal ever get boring? You have to watch everything. Grass fed might not be grass finished. Things with "Healthy" in the name almost never are. If you don't live in a trendy area, you have to search online for some foods. The most simple prepared foods (tomato sauces, etc.) are laden with crap. Heck, it takes time reading all those labels!
    "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

    B*tch-lite

    Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
      Alton Brown once showed that if you fry at the correct temp for both the oil and the food you're preparing, you don't pick up that much oil in your food. I forget what he was frying (and of course he was using "healthy" vegetable oil), but it was a lot. He measured the oil left in the pan, and there wasn't that much gone. However, he's a food person, and most of us don't want to look up foods and temps for each meal. Also, anything one doesn't prepare with one's own hands is most likely going to have the magic salt+fat+sugar thing so you eat more of it.
      Deep-fry in coconut oil for the lightest, crispiest food. I have a dedicated fryer filled with coconut oil where I only fry potatoes. Haven't fried many since I started losing weight though.

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      • #48
        So many animals to eat.... so little time. How could you ever get bored?

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        • #49
          The biggest problem is so many SAD eaters have never learned to truly COOK. I have always told my children cooking is art. Baking is chemistry. Be creative. I learned to cook in elementry school(latch key kid) and learned that no one else in the family wanted to be in the kitchen. It became my room, my creative space. I only started having weight issues when I started eating the way the "experts" said we were supposed to. Hahaha! Now going back to my childhood roots and primal roots, weight has disappeared and health is without question the best it has ever been. I often have family and friends ask me for a recipe and I just look at them with a blank look on my face. It is always a little different. I cook according to what is freshest not what is on the menu. I have a young lady who lives with us and she will follow me in the kitchen watching and writing down what I do. She comes from a long line of "rule followers." She is starting to find her own creative footing in the kitchen. Makes me smile.

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          • #50
            Well said. Made me smile.
            Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
            So many animals to eat.... so little time. How could you ever get bored?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Winterbike View Post
              What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
              Sigged.
              Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

              Griff's cholesterol primer
              5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
              Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
              TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
              bloodorchid is always right

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              • #52
                Originally posted by oxide View Post
                In the US there are very strict rules about labeling something "reduced Fat" or "low fat." Reduced fat means must be 25% less fat than average, and Low-Fat yogurt has 30% fat calories total. When processers take out the fat, they made up for the mouth feel by adding a water/cornstrach mixture and stabilizers. Cheesemakers would use skim milk and a thickener instead of whole milk.

                Getting rid of fat is pretty hard to do, so companies use the "light" label to trick people into thinking it's low fat. There are no restrictions on the words "light" or "natural." I've heard that "lighter" sometimes refers to the color. Or they would say "low in saturated fat" and make up for it with cheaper unsaturated canola oil.

                Labeling requirements here: 9. Appendix A: Definitions of Nutrient Content Claims

                Of course only a dedicated foodie with a lot of time on their hands (ie no kids) would look at every label like this.

                However, if a low-fat diet was stealthily high in fat, then why aren't all these SADs feeling satiated on lower total calories? Why are they so hungry for carbs? Is it the wheat addiction, or maybe these funny fats don't cause satiety like animal fats do?
                Because adding fat isn't always the key to satiety. In fact it can even work the opposite way for many people. Especially when mixed with sugar and other additives that make the food more appetizing. I mean, even if all vegetable oils were replaced with lard it would hardly change anything. Some of the labeling can be tricky but at the same time, labeling something 95% fat free is correct. It contains 5 grams of fat per 100g of food, which makes almost half of it's calories coming from fat.

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