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    I rationalize it's not that bad for me. There's no sugar or calories, and I've grown to like the taste of the aspartame/acesulfame potassium combo as much as real sugar. As far as I can tell drinking 1 liter of the stuff every day has not negatively impacted my health yet (although it may be doing so subclinically). It doesn't give me headaches or make me gain weight.

    But I still want to quit because I feel like there's unexplored gains to be made by getting rid of the habit. I am wondering though, has anyone quit diet soda and felt much better? Has anyone quit and felt exactly the same? Has anyone been drinking diet soda for decades and feel like it hasn't harmed their health at all? I'm on the fence about this.

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    i used to drink 2 liters of diet pepsi, daily, all through my teens. i could never sleep.

    YES! my health and life improved dramatically. except for the bone weaknesses i now suffer due to that shit eating through my bones.

    it's utter poison.
    As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

    Ernest Hemingway

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    • #3
      Even when I was a soda-drinker (which ended YEARS ago, even before PB) I've always hated diet soda. However, one beverage I really enjoy is seltzer, so maybe give that a try. You can buy flavored ones (although the "natural flavors" are questionable and will be more of a 20% thing) but I usually buy plain seltzer and add a squeeze of lemon, or some vanilla extract. It's fizzy and tasty and it could do the trick for you.
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      • #4
        Not even on a bet will I drink that stuff.

        Something I learned a long time ago is, when youre low on energy put a sugary mint in your mouth and your body will respond as if it just got a lot of sugar.

        Even know there is "no" calories (bs btw) those chemicals still tell your body that there is sugar to process and responds as if. Also ( I dont recall the article) but seltzer water ie soda hits the gut and disrupts proper digestions and expedites fat storage. I dont know if its just the digestion process or if its some other mechanism but its useless for any wellness benefit

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        • #5
          After doing some research (back 22 years ago) I decided aspartame was just too risky for my baby when I was pregnant.

          Then, duh, 20 years later, I decided it probably wasn't all that great for me either.

          So now I tend to use the question "Would I feed this to my unborn baby?" even though I haven't been pregnant in 18 years. It's still a pretty good way to look at it.

          Seriously, that is some scary shit. Do your research. It's really pretty awful.
          Durp.

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          • #6
            Personally I have been drinking diet soda on and off for the last thirthy years or so, but in the later years I have upped my consume and I feel better than ever, so I think it maybe have some positive health benefits! Remember Asparstame is a synthesis between two natural amino acids and the breakdown in our bodies goes back to those natural amino acids so it is absurd that this should be unhealthy whatsoever. So personally I play the wager that aparstame is very healthy indeed and that all that think it's bad are wrong! So perhaps it will turn out that I will live by good health until I am 150 years of age and the rest of you to 90 or 100 years only because you didn't use the oportunity of ingesting enough aspartame in your bodies?
            "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

            - Schopenhauer

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
              Personally I have been drinking diet soda on and off for the last thirthy years or so, but in the later years I have upped my consume and I feel better than ever, so I think it maybe have some positive health benefits! Remember Asparstame is a synthesis between two natural amino acids and the breakdown in our bodies goes back to those natural amino acids so it is absurd that this should be unhealthy whatsoever. So personally I play the wager that aparstame is very healthy indeed and that all that think it's bad are wrong! So perhaps it will turn out that I will live by good health until I am 150 years of age and the rest of you to 90 or 100 years only because you didn't use the oportunity of ingesting enough aspartame in your bodies?
              Good luck with that.

              I'd ask you to let me know how it works out, but with Alzheimers, I doubt you'll remember. I don't think the stroke will help much either.

              Seriously, I've done the research - a lot of us have - but it's your brain, you can do whatever you want with it.

              As someone who has done a lot of physical damage to mine, not chemical, it's not pretty when it's not working right.
              Durp.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
                Good luck with that.

                I'd ask you to let me know how it works out, but with Alzheimers, I doubt you'll remember. I don't think the stroke will help much either.

                Seriously, I've done the research - a lot of us have - but it's your brain, you can do whatever you want with it.

                As someone who has done a lot of physical damage to mine, not chemical, it's not pretty when it's not working right.
                Yeah sure, all the scientists and health authorities world wide are wrong and you and other "researchers" are right...
                "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

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                • #9
                  Several years ago I stopped drinking anything carbonated, with immediately beneficial results. Carbonation itself is hell on digestion.
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                  • #10
                    Has anyone else here tried Zevia sodas? I used to drink diet Pepsi several times a week, but recently switched to Zevia. Zero calories and sweetened with stevia and erythritol.

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                    • #11
                      Get off the fence. Are you aiming for health or not?

                      It's something you wouldn't even feed to a dog. I see no reason why anyone should ever willingly consume it.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                        Personally I have been drinking diet soda on and off for the last thirthy years or so, but in the later years I have upped my consume and I feel better than ever, so I think it maybe have some positive health benefits! Remember Asparstame is a synthesis between two natural amino acids and the breakdown in our bodies goes back to those natural amino acids so it is absurd that this should be unhealthy whatsoever. So personally I play the wager that aparstame is very healthy indeed and that all that think it's bad are wrong! So perhaps it will turn out that I will live by good health until I am 150 years of age and the rest of you to 90 or 100 years only because you didn't use the oportunity of ingesting enough aspartame in your bodies?
                        Depending on where you live (US vs. Europe, and who knows how long?), aspartame has two forms, a traditional form and a genetically modified form. Much of the USA's aspartame is of a GM bacteria origin. This GM bacteria produces high amounts of the ami

                        It is safe to say that aspartame is not 100% natural. What happens inside the body in the presence of aspartame is questionable and of significant risk, especially over long term use.

                        "In food, phenylalanine and aspartic acid are bound to other amino acids in long, complex chains of proteins so that they are not absorbed in a way that could cause damage.

                        But in aspartame they are not, and enzymes in the gut can easily split them apart.

                        Once phenylalanine is released in its free form, it is metabolized into diketopiperazine, a carcinogen. Aspartic acid in its free form becomes an excitotoxin, a toxic molecule that stimulates nerve cells to the point of damage or death.

                        The third component of aspartame, methyl ester, is the most harmful. It is metabolised by the body into methanol, a well-known poison.

                        In the US, the Environmental Protection Agency defines safe consumption of methanol as no more than 7.8mg a day.

                        Anyone drinking three cans of a drink sweetened with aspartame a day is consuming about 56mg of methanol."


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                        • #13
                          there are also carcinogens in the synthetically produced caramel coloring, although the relevant amount of carcinogen to actual harmfulness appears to be up for debate: Coca-Cola Modifies Caramel Color To Avoid Cancer Warning Label : The Salt : NPR

                          anyway, besides the methanol, which if true is probably the most toxic metabolite, there is also the benzene evolved from the sodium benzoate, the preservative that is in almost EVERYTHING. just to avoid the benzoate I avoid not just sodas, but a LOT of packaged foods and cosmetics, etc... it is really hard to avoid. Although there still seems to be debate about how much benzene is in drinks is actually harmful, compared to common environmental sources.

                          I like the taste of diet cola, a lot, always have. But I try to avoid any overt consumption of carbonated bevs; I don't buy any for myself hardly ever, nor choose them when out at a restaurant. My husband still gets diet coke when out and really likes his carbonated beverages still, so i usually get a few sips of his drink, which is enough to enjoy the sweet taste, but a few sips is all I get at a time. But finally, we are all going to die someday, so maybe it's not worth it to deprive yourself or stress out over depriving yourself; quality of life matters too.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cryptocode View Post
                            Several years ago I stopped drinking anything carbonated, with immediately beneficial results. Carbonation itself is hell on digestion.
                            Yup!! I completely agree with you. Instead of drinking carbonated water we can have any healthy juice. Atleast that would be helpful for your body.

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                            • #15
                              I like fizzy water, I don't drink it often, maybe get a 2l bottle once a month, I never considered it would have any digestive issues, I'll have to look into that.

                              I don't drink diet sodas regually anymore apart from a very very very occasional treat, I still like the taste of diet coke and if I'm having a meal out sometimes it's the only cold thing to drink that isn't over-priced bottled water or full of sugar.
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