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  • #16
    Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
    2 hands and the space between your elbow and chest. and forearm. x2. i mean, theoretically, you could carry off 10 if you're careful
    Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
    and thennn..... diabeetus
    lol !

    Originally posted by DinoHunter View Post
    Pthhhhh forget taxing it.. how about just stop subsidizing the sugar & grain industry?
    I wish

    Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
    The only reason I'd like to see soda sales taxed here is that because as it is now, it's a "food" and so it can be bought with food stamps. I honestly don't care what adults do to their bodies, but since children drink a lot of soda, I'd like to see that curbed even just a little.

    I understand it's a slippery slope. I want soda in the non-food category, someone else wants coffee categorized non-food, etc. And I know that when all is said and done, sales taxing soda won't help children who have parents that either can't say no, or don't know enough to say no.
    indeed. Food Stamps have their place, but it's human nature to take advantage of / abuse any handout you didn't earn yourself; and the system is wide open to abuse and widely being abused. For instance, a lot of ppl use the stamps for food and save any cash they have for the booze and cigs (and other drugs, likely). Or they sell the food stamp card for half cash value to get the cash for the booze and cigs and who knows what, then claim the card was lost and get a new one (very, very common). But definitely soda should be classed as non-food, obviously. When I see an old overweight woman with 6 cases of sugarized coke in her cart and I feel both sad and scared for her.
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    • #17
      Or they sell the food stamp card for half cash value to get the cash for the booze and cigs and who knows what, then claim the card was lost and get a new one (very, very common).
      You might be correct about the first part, but if there's activity on the card you claim you lost, and they catch who's using it, that person will only get a fine - the person who sold the card is knocked off food stamps for two years. It's not very very common.

      I'm sorry, but I get a little put off at some generalizations. People who got screwed during the "let's give a mortgage to everyone," people who had their pension funds ransacked, people who worked and paid taxes all their lives and then became disabled or too old to work, people who had parents unable to pay for their education, a 15 year old girl who screws up and has a baby - these are all the people who apparently are scuzzballs for getting handouts. It's just too easy to label people who get foodstamps and other social services as junkies and drunks (who all smoke of course). They are only part of the group the rest of us feed.

      It's just too easy to kick people when they're down, while at the same time not paying attention to corporate welfare which probably sucks the middle class much dryer than the poor ever could.
      "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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      Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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      • #18
        naw, you just say you lost the card after you got the food. and yes, the abuse is very common, especially in poor states where much of the population is chronically unemployed and continually on food stamps. I don't think we should stop food stamps, yes it can help some legit people, but it does need to be more regulated to reduce abuse. Not being able to buy non-food or unhealthy items would be a start. There are also some states that give way too much money in food stamps benefits, so much so the recipient cannot spend it all, or buys outrageously expensive food and throws parties to get rid of it all. That's just a waste.
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        • #19
          The maximum benefit is $200/month for a single person household. You obviously don't have a clue.
          Last edited by JoanieL; 02-18-2013, 07:03 PM. Reason: to clean up a poor expression of my thoughts
          "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

          B*tch-lite

          Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by itchy166 View Post
            You are an exception to the rule. (There are over 46million Americans on SNAP, most will never go to college). And, by your own admission you were severely over-charged. I don't want to get into it here either, so in the interest of getting back on topic:

            Do you really trust CW doctors to implement public policy? Like I said, this kind of thinking would outlaw coconut oil for its saturated fat content, eggs for the cholesterol content, and kitchen knives for their pointed ends, etc. Where would it end?
            Small point on kitchen knives Doctors have objected to them for many many years and have a point IMO. The reason that table knives are rounded is for this very same reason and originates from, I beleive 16th century France where they decided to prevent restaurant goers from stabbing each other. The trend caught on....
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Owen View Post
              Small point on kitchen knives Doctors have objected to them for many many years and have a point IMO. The reason that table knives are rounded is for this very same reason and originates from, I beleive 16th century France where they decided to prevent restaurant goers from stabbing each other. The trend caught on....
              Yup treat the population as though they are children. Great idea.
              "It's a great life, if you don't weaken.". John Buchan

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              • #22
                It's just another excuse so the government can tax you harder and take more of your money.

                Please don't tell me that people are so retarded that they can't make their own decisions.

                What are you going to be asking for next? Should fat people be put in jail for being fat, only fed the right amount of food so they can lose weight, and not allowed to get out until they aren't fat anymore? It would work, but I'd think people would want more freedom than that. Unless people really are that dumb? Yeah, probably.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Ripped View Post
                  Please don't tell me that people are so retarded that they can't make their own decisions.
                  This sounds well and good. But there's a big problem -- information. While the internet should remedy this problem, it hasn't. People coccoon themselves and cling to false notions.

                  If advertising didn't affect people, corporations wouldn't waste their moneyl.

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                  • #24
                    I felt like holding my head in my hands when I heard about this story on the radio - they interviewed a member of the public who said "Well if soft drinks were so bad for us, they wouldn't make them" - duh!
                    Lilith

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                    • #25
                      Clearly the health indicies tell us that sugar is as problematic for the human frame as the other two main (and heavily taxed) offenders, namely alchohol and nicotine. The fact that sugar is exempt is probably because we are only now seeing the obvious effects of HFCS. In my view: outlaw HFCS, apply the same levvies on refined sugar as are applied to cigarettes, and issue a nappy(diaper) and pacifier to anyone who complains
                      Healthy is the new wealthy.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Owen View Post
                        Clearly the health indicies tell us that sugar is as problematic for the human frame as the other two main (and heavily taxed) offenders, namely alchohol and nicotine. The fact that sugar is exempt is probably because we are only now seeing the obvious effects of HFCS. In my view: outlaw HFCS, apply the same levvies on refined sugar as are applied to cigarettes, and issue a nappy(diaper) and pacifier to anyone who complains
                        Yup, because the state always knows what's best for us. If you allow this kind of thinking, they would tax coconut oil and butter for the saturated fat content, eggs for the cholesterol content, and tax meat because it is less efficient at feeding people than corn is. Next they would outlaw knives because they are pointy, baseball bats because they are blunt, high heel shoes because they are wobbly, cars because they are fast, etc...

                        Good idea.
                        "It's a great life, if you don't weaken.". John Buchan

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Rojo View Post
                          This sounds well and good. But there's a big problem -- information. While the internet should remedy this problem, it hasn't. People coccoon themselves and cling to false notions.

                          If advertising didn't affect people, corporations wouldn't waste their moneyl.
                          Natural selection will work it all out. The morons will eat themselves to death. Everyone else will survive.

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