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  • #46
    Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
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    Hey, i think we've found Matt Stone a new editor!!!!!

    But seriously folks, we are getting our collective chains yanked by "HFLC almost killed me" sob-storytellers who always manage to get threads chock-full of links to their sugar daddies' space stations and who try to pick off anyone they see as vulnerable. There is not enough traffic at the home station so they come here where there is a lot of traffic-traffic bec. there is success here and lots of it! Witness the abundance of success stories in THE BLOG, and other excellent articles with some pretty substantial comments by some very knowledgeable posters making it worth investing the time to read for newbies (me) first, along with the book-The Primal Blueprint- and maybe then the forum. What i find insidious is the attraction that "hacks" (like the tubular-glucose diet) have for those who come to the forum and need a sane, reasonable diet(it is more than JUST that) so that they can heal and latch on to these things and are even encouraged by some to do so. Those with a mostly undamaged metabolism will probably get away with it.They might not. How's your health?
    Last edited by Terry H; 02-17-2013, 08:08 AM.

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    • #47
      I liked the Happiness article. I wish I had done more of that stuff as a 23 year old vs. falling in love...gag!

      I will agree with the others, slow and steady...or even at times, just slow. I have lost 14 lbs since January 2012, doesn't sound like much, but I don't live in fear of it coming back. Previous weight loss, would be sneaking back with every extra "naughty" item. Now if I have crazy indulgent days, just enjoy and walk more. I still "need" to lose 5-10, maybe 15 more, maybe that will happen this year. It took me 39 years to develop a good relationship with food, if it takes me 2-3 years to have a good relationship with my clothes, I am okay. Family history says I will live well past 80 even if fat and smoking (which I am not and don't), so 2-3 years is just a drop in bucket.
      Primal since 4/7/2012

      Starting weight 140
      Current weigh 126

      www.jenniferglobensky.blogspot.com

      Jennifer

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      • #48
        My stress has gone DOWN since going high fat.
        I'm more relaxed, sleep better, work more efficiently...etc Only have stress-spikes around exam seasons, when I eat more than I need, eat more crap and don't exercise as much.

        n=1: calorific surplus, high-carb, junk and low activity = stress. High fat, carbs around 20%, quality food and exercise = stress diffusers/blocks.
        --
        Perfection is entirely individual. Any philosophy or pursuit that encourages individuality has merit in that it frees people. Any that encourages shackles only has merit in that it shows you how wrong and desperate the human mind can get in its pursuit of truth.

        --
        I get blunter and more narcissistic by the day.
        I'd apologize, but...

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
          Sure. Symptoms I went through in just short term:

          Loss of libido, rapid weight loss, decreased appetite, telogen effluvium, erectile dysfunction, paranoia, anxiety, rapid painful heart rate upon waking up leading to insomnia, dry eyes, irritability, low blood sugar causing terrible night tremors and nightmares, no energy, brain fog. Not exaggerating. Of course, this might be attributed to the fact I was highly insulin sensitive to begin with and my body took it as me starving.

          I also started ketosis while already only 150lbs at 6'3. My fat choice could have been managed better as well, possibly more protective ketones from coconut oil, but I was highly addicted to nut butters at the time. Now the thought of those makes me sick. Funny how your body has a way of letting you know when something is bad for you.
          Well, no wonder you had problems. That is dangerously skinny. Before dumping paleo and going Peaty did you ever just try eating "Moar" food?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
            Well, no wonder you had problems. That is dangerously skinny. Before dumping paleo and going Peaty did you ever just try eating "Moar" food?

            Yeah, not quite sure I understand the choice of someone already low weight to go to NK without very specifically having a plan of action for keeping their caloric intake very high since it is known to drastically decrease appetite and cause weight loss even in people who otherwise have difficulty losing.

            N=1 says that was a bad plan for you.

            For someone with lots of extra resources already at hand to burn when they under eat, it's not such a problem. That's why people also can get very sick like you just described while eating high carb, low fat, but low calorie.
            I had a friend several years ago who did that... lost her hair, ended up in the hospital, bad news.
            “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
            ~Friedrich Nietzsche
            And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
              Well, no wonder you had problems. That is dangerously skinny. Before dumping paleo and going Peaty did you ever just try eating "Moar" food?
              I tried to eat as much as I could. I literally was full all the time and eating more caused me intense stomach pain to the point I felt like I was going to throw up if I ate anymore. My usual calorie intake even with nut butters couldn't top 1.5k usually, even when I completely cut out salads and just focused on fatty meat and high fat dairy.

              Only reason I wanted to try ketosis is because everyone was ranting and raving about how it was the promised land of energy and mental clarity, and how we're meant to be "fat burning beasts". Everyone starts out gullible when they first look into eating healthy. The internet is a dangerous place. You have to learn to sift through information to find what works for you.

              The way I eat now isn't so much different than paleo, I just don't like low carb whatsoever. And I enjoy coca cola.
              Make America Great Again

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              • #52
                Yeah... I've seen some people come around asking about NK who are already low weight and such and I try to steer them clear.

                Sure some people get the energy and clarity thing... but the biggest side effect for most of people is appetite suppression which is why it works for weight loss and for those with disordered eating.
                For those people who are at a healthy weight and doing it for a medical reason like epilepsy they need to approach it more carefully and with caloric needs at the forefront, sometimes they have to ease into that level of eating slowly.

                For the people like you who are a good body weight or just need to lose 10-20 lbs, and those really active, I always tell them do normal PB or higher carb/lower fat with plenty of veg, tubers, and fruits for a while first to see how that works...
                HFLC and NK isn't for everyone.
                “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                  And I enjoy coca cola.
                  I was all set for a huge group hug and then this ^............... Gwamma has got some seriously twitchy fingers just itching to smack someones bottom...........................however thats not allowed etc....... so I will have to keep my digits to myself - BUGGAR
                  "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                  ...small steps....

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                  • #54
                    Low carb is the ONLY thing that works for me. I lose weight, have stable energy, have complete control over my appetite, have more stable emotions, have more sex drive and less ED, etc,etc,etc. The list goes on and on and I have zero negative side effects to report from going low carb(less than 30 grams a day). Is it right for everyone? Probably not but it is probably good for most. Just my personal first hand experience but I'm sure someone will tell me all those positive effects were imagined or something(though I know better).

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by NZ primal Gwamma View Post
                      I was all set for a huge group hug and then this ^............... Gwamma has got some seriously twitchy fingers just itching to smack someones bottom...........................however thats not allowed etc....... so I will have to keep my digits to myself - BUGGAR
                      aw gwamma, we all have our vices
                      beautiful
                      yeah you are

                      Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                      lol

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                      • #56
                        Looks thoughtfully at Gwamma and her ten young Tongan fellas...
                        “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                        ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                        And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                        • #57
                          yep - all done and dusted for the day. Not sure how to switch camera off flash - so was unable to take sneaky pics without being totally busted !!!!!!!!!
                          .................. and since it is totally inappropriate to smack any forum derrieres today - I shall retreat back into my cave and play - oh - I don't know - maybe Black widow spiders ????????
                          "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

                          ...small steps....

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                            I tried to eat as much as I could. I literally was full all the time and eating more caused me intense stomach pain to the point I felt like I was going to throw up if I ate anymore. My usual calorie intake even with nut butters couldn't top 1.5k usually, even when I completely cut out salads and just focused on fatty meat and high fat dairy.

                            Only reason I wanted to try ketosis is because everyone was ranting and raving about how it was the promised land of energy and mental clarity, and how we're meant to be "fat burning beasts". Everyone starts out gullible when they first look into eating healthy. The internet is a dangerous place. You have to learn to sift through information to find what works for you.

                            The way I eat now isn't so much different than paleo, I just don't like low carb whatsoever. And I enjoy coca cola.
                            So what are you eating nowadays and how do you generally feel?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                              Yeah... I've seen some people come around asking about NK who are already low weight and such and I try to steer them clear.

                              Sure some people get the energy and clarity thing... but the biggest side effect for most of people is appetite suppression which is why it works for weight loss and for those with disordered eating.
                              For those people who are at a healthy weight and doing it for a medical reason like epilepsy they need to approach it more carefully and with caloric needs at the forefront, sometimes they have to ease into that level of eating slowly.

                              For the people like you who are a good body weight or just need to lose 10-20 lbs, and those really active, I always tell them do normal PB or higher carb/lower fat with plenty of veg, tubers, and fruits for a while first to see how that works...
                              HFLC and NK isn't for everyone.
                              Firstly, what is NK?

                              Secondly, the bolded part, is the suppression of appetite as simple as fat and protein (meat) are hardest and longest to digest therefore, you will go with eating less during the day?

                              Which makes me think about the whole thing regarding hunger being a sign of body needing nutrients, if your not hungry, your supposedly adequately fueling your body with minerals and vitamins etc thereby your good to go. But like you said, for relatively healthy people, of ideal weight and whatnot, to get your calories in you will have to consume more regularly, of nutritious and easier to digest food sources?

                              That's what i will be experimenting with over the next month anyway, i need to moderate protein and fat intakes, so i can eat more often during the day, at most 3 times, but 3 filling and nutritious meals. Currently 2 would be the max i can fit in normal eating hours, and i want to perhaps squeeze it in a 16/8 or even 12/10 eating windows to get some slight benefits from a bit of intermittent fasting.

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                              • #60
                                NK- nutritional ketosis.
                                “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                                ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                                And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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