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  • #16
    The most predicative ratio is TG/HDL (ideal < 2). Yours is 1.84.
    The most predicative single value is HDL (ideal > 60). Yours is 64.
    Plus you've only been PB for 3 months.
    Are you getting any resistance exercise? That would be one way to up your HDL even more.
    I really wouldn't worry about LDL because it's not accurately measured and you can't differentiate between the good and bad LDL.
    TG's you want to keep lower but 118 is well within the ideal of <150.
    I think you've got nothing to worry about.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
      Cholesterol, longevity, intelligence, and health.
      Thank you. I enjoyed that article.
      "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ulnauy View Post
        The most predicative ratio is TG/HDL (ideal < 2). Yours is 1.84.
        The most predicative single value is HDL (ideal > 60). Yours is 64.
        Plus you've only been PB for 3 months.
        Are you getting any resistance exercise? That would be one way to up your HDL even more.
        I really wouldn't worry about LDL because it's not accurately measured and you can't differentiate between the good and bad LDL.
        TG's you want to keep lower but 118 is well within the ideal of <150.
        I think you've got nothing to worry about.
        Thank you very much. Whewwww! Thank makes me feel much better. I've started some resistance exercise, about 20 min, once a week. When I started PB I couldn't walk or stand up unsupported, so I'm talking it slowly.
        "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Cryptocode View Post
          Yes, I've read Griff's papers on Cholesterol, several times. I understand about the platlett size. However about 4 days before my test Mark's blog discussed that none of the test for determining platlett size were reliable, so I decided not to ask for one.

          This week / previous test
          CHOLESTEROL 333 / 326
          TRIGLYCERIDE 118 / 129
          HDL 64 / 54
          LDL CALCULATED 245 / 246
          CHOLESTEROL/HIGH DENSITY LIPOPROTEIN 5.2 / 6.0
          I think you might have stopped griff's primer at the first post. It's so awesome that it can't be contained in a single post. And in fact, the most important bit is actually over on the second post.

          Here's your cholesterol numbers reformulated as ratios:
          Total/HDL: (ideal = 5 or below) Yours=5.2, previously 6.0
          Trig/HDL: (ideal = 2 or below) Yours=1.8, previous 2.4
          LDL/HDL: (ideal = 4.3 or below) Yours=3.8, previous 4.5

          Look at that. EVERY ratio is moving in the right direction. Both your Trig and LDL ratios are great. Your Total ratio is trending well.

          Originally posted by Cryptocode View Post
          So - this morning I've had a phone call from Kaiser's Cholesterol Center. They've seen my test results and they're preparing for another assult. I do hate to tell a doctor to go to h**l, but I'll try to do it nicely. After all, I've done everything they're told me for all these years and it has resulted in nothing but misery, pain, and trouble.
          I think that I've shown you don't need medication. You just need some more healthy fats to boost your HDL even higher.

          If you ask them about ratios and they give you CW BS, then feel free to disregard their advice.
          Last edited by magicmerl; 02-14-2013, 06:59 PM.
          Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

          Griff's cholesterol primer
          5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
          Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
          TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
          bloodorchid is always right

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          • #20
            Thank you, Magicmerl I'll give that argument a try. I agree it won't work, but it will give me talking points before saying no to whatever they're going to advise.
            "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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            • #21
              Yeah, one thing to keep in mind is that their contractual performance objectives might score them badly if they don't achieve the 'outcome' of lowering your cholesterol.

              So if they have a financial incentive to want your cholesterol low, expect them to push for it.
              Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

              Griff's cholesterol primer
              5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
              Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
              TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
              bloodorchid is always right

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              • #22
                Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                Yeah, one thing to keep in mind is that their contractual performance objectives might score them badly if they don't achieve the 'outcome' of lowering your cholesterol.

                So if they have a financial incentive to want your cholesterol low, expect them to push for it.
                Yes, the so called QA/QI (quality assurance/quality improvement) movement in the US is a driving force behind statin usage. Not much of a surprise to find that pharmaceuticals are big backers of performance-based pay for physicians.

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                • #23
                  The Mayo Clinic and Kaiser (the Big HMO's) were Big supporters of Obamacare and Medicare, as was Big Pharma. You bet they care about pushing those drugs and having a great "Health Care Plan". I've learned that providing a "Health Care Plan" is a lot different providing "Health Care". They all have great Plans that address their contractual performance objectives with QA/QI.
                  "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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