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  • #61
    Originally posted by MakeupAddict12 View Post
    I have been doing PB for five weeks and have only lost 3-4 lbs. I was surgically placed into menopause in May of last year and have put on 10-15 lbs since then. Just wondering if other ladies seem to struggle even following the PB.

    Thanks in Advance.
    Hi MakeupAddict. Congratulations on starting your primal journey. In my experience it becomes easier to follow the PB as you go along, so don't give up.

    I am 48, I have been exercising for 12 months and eating primally since June. I had been experiencing premenopausal symptoms such as bloating, insomnia, mood swings and sugar crashes but they have disappeared, my cycle is more regular than ever, my energy is up, weight down, blood pressure normal which it has never been etc etc. All these gains are so worthwhile that I am not really tempted to stray from what works. Besides which I really love primal foods and enjoy them better than the grains, oils and sugary products that so many people regard as treats. To me, all my food is a treat.

    All this talk about macros and percentages goes over my head, I simply eat real food and aim to have some protein at every meal, plenty of veges, and "not too many" nuts, fruit, cheese. It has worked well for me.

    I had some fat to lose at the beginning, so I definitely limited carbs for a time. But I didn't overdo the fat either and the inches just melted away. I also take a weights class twice a week. I love it because it has made me stronger, better shape, and allows me to eat more (good thing, right?). Now that I am happy with my weight (5'4", 59kg) I am more generous with both fat and carbs.

    There could be many reasons you are struggling. Like, having the wrong foods still in the house or having to cook for other nonprimal family members etc. Also simply not having enough good primal options right there when you need them.

    For example, You might need to shop more often so that you have fresh veges on hand. Or cook extra at dinner so your primal lunch is ready to grab when you want it. I often find myself looking ahead to my next meal and planning it in my head. THis is a lot of fun when I know the fridge and pantry are well stocked, but not so much when the cupboards are bare.

    Good luck.
    Annie Ups the Ante
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread117711.html

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
      in elderly men and women

      ugghh I felt pretty good until I read "elderly"

      No doubt, primal is the way to eat. I would never think of going back to CW. This is like getting back to the way I was raised before fast food - either fast food while out or fast processed foods at home. (which we mostly ate out, I hardly cooked in 15 years)

      And depending on how much your body needs to heal, progress could be slower/faster, but it is healing so yes definitely do not give up on primal.

      Since my goal is to maximize fat loss, I just needed to adjust my macros which also makes me feel better. But those might make someone else's conditions worse. And I felt pretty good when I started primal, but after reading threads and going even Higher HFLC, things just got whacked up. I enjoy things like fruit, and I didnt like that period of time when I was afraid to eat it. I would come to Mark's Daily Apple every day, yet I was afraid to eat one.

      One of the best pieces of advice that I have read of late, was stay off the boards for the first 6 months.
      65lbs gone and counting!!

      Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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      • #63
        Great thread. So helpful. I'm 46 and I lost my first 25 with portion control (some on my own and some weight watchers) and building regular exercise into my life. Took nine months. Then I moved into a major plateau. I've been stalled for about six months and at the same time switched to paleo under naturalpath's orders to reduce inflammation. I've gotten frustrated because I can't seem to lose a single pound and I still have aches and pains, but realized my frustration was leading to cheating. So, I'm back on full strength and still am not losing. Was considering upping the fat, but I think given this thread it's not a good idea. I think adding heavy lifting would be good for me (right now I do core power yoga and Jcore). Anyone know of a 30 minute lifting video that would be good for a 46 year old woman?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by gopintos View Post
          ugghh I felt pretty good until I read "elderly"

          Since my goal is to maximize fat loss, I just needed to adjust my macros which also makes me feel better. But those might make someone else's conditions worse. And I felt pretty good when I started primal, but after reading threads and going even Higher HFLC, things just got whacked up. I enjoy things like fruit, and I didnt like that period of time when I was afraid to eat it. I would come to Mark's Daily Apple every day, yet I was afraid to eat one.
          Can someone explain Macros and HFLC? I think I may have seen a legend somewhere for translating abbreviations nd terms but can't remember where!

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          • #65
            Originally posted by julesy View Post
            Anyone know of a 30 minute lifting video that would be good for a 46 year old woman?
            Watch these videos.
            Starting Strength: Videos

            Get the Starting Strength book and maybe Practical Programming as well. Understand that Starting Strength is for skinny high school guys who want to get on the football team, so make a few adjustments to "the program":

            - Increase weights in smaller increments. (5lbs, 2.5 or even 1lb. You'll have to buy your own small weights.)
            - Don't do the gallon of milk a day thing (GOMAD). Instead, just eat more protein.
            - If you struggle to recover, do fewer workouts per week.
            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
              Watch these videos.
              Starting Strength: Videos

              Get the Starting Strength book and maybe Practical Programming as well. Understand that Starting Strength is for skinny high school guys who want to get on the football team, so make a few adjustments to "the program":

              - Increase weights in smaller increments. (5lbs, 2.5 or even 1lb. You'll have to buy your own small weights.)
              - Don't do the gallon of milk a day thing (GOMAD). Instead, just eat more protein.
              - If you struggle to recover, do fewer workouts per week.
              Thanks! Should 5 pund weights be the max for a middle aged female? I guess I should post this in the fitness thread!

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              • #67
                Originally posted by julesy View Post
                Thanks! Should 5 pund weights be the max for a middle aged female? I guess I should post this in the fitness thread!
                I think what sbhikes meant was to increase the weight in small increments like from 30 pounds to 32.5 not to try to jump up from 30 to 45 or some such. There are women here of all ages that throw around mad weight.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by julesy View Post
                  Then I moved into a major plateau. I've been stalled for about six months ..... Was considering upping the fat, but I think given this thread it's not a good idea. I
                  All I know is that for me, upping the fat did not work. But at the same time, my daily calories were probably too low. If I would have taken a day or two and upped calories/carbs, it probably would have been okay. So it totally zapped my energy. And when I thought I had energy, I didnt have any motivation.

                  Now I can do a day now and then, some days just work out that way, and I am no worse for wear.

                  Originally posted by julesy View Post
                  Can someone explain Macros and HFLC? I think I may have seen a legend somewhere for translating abbreviations nd terms but can't remember where!
                  Macros are carbs/fat/protein
                  HFLC is high fat low carb

                  65lbs gone and counting!!

                  Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by julesy View Post
                    Anyone know of a 30 minute lifting video that would be good for a 46 year old woman?
                    Seriously...starting strength.

                    The Starting Strength Novice/Beginner Programs - Starting Strength Wiki

                    Go right into mastering the big motions: deadlifts, squats, benchpresses, power cleans.

                    The Original Starting Strength Novice Program

                    Workout A
                    3x5 Squat
                    3x5 Bench Press
                    1x5 Deadlift

                    Workout B
                    3x5 Squat
                    3x5 Press
                    5x3 Power cleans

                    Workouts A and B alternate on 3 non-consecutive days per week.


                    Over two weeks, you basically go:
                    Monday #1 Routine A
                    Thursday #1 Routine B
                    Saturday #1 Routine A
                    Monday #2 Routine B
                    Thursday #2 Routine A
                    Saturday #2 Routine B

                    Repeat. Every 3rd cycle consider taking an entire week off. If you get really, really sore or are getting bad sleep, consider taking a whole week off after 2 cycles.

                    I recommend using the absolute heaviest weight you can do 5 times with proper form. If you can do it more than 5 times, add another 5 lbs and work up until you can do it 5 times again. That's how it should work every week - you are either trying to add a repetition or 5 lb more. Compete with yourself. Buy a journal and track your progress.

                    After you get more comfortable with the big lifts, you can branch out and add other things to your routine like chin-ups, lat pulldowns, calf raises and other supplemental complex movements. Just don't let me see you doing things like crunches and anything involving those ridiculous bosu balls!
                    Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                    • #70
                      I think it all boils down to individual body requirements. I lose on higher fat lower carb. I don't know why it works but it does. Down 19+ pounds. I'm happy. I do add extra carbs/lower fat once every week or so. Experimentation to see what works for your individual body seems to be important.

                      To the original poster staying with Primal has been easy for me. It's actually the easiest I have ever lost weight since I needed to lose any. It's almost too easy in my mind. I feel kind of guilty I haven't suffered some to lose this weight. LOL
                      Last edited by Primal123; 02-14-2013, 08:59 PM. Reason: typos

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Louisa655
                        In my personal view, one of the problems on the MDA site is the 'fat women/men' who have made it their job to lord over others and share their experiences. I use the Eat More Fat string on MDA. My God....these perio-meno women are overweight, have been members for years, and espouse knowledge like it was the drinking fountain in Rome. How about getting your fat asses off the computer -- get thee self to a gym or cross fit, and spend less time espousing what you think you know to the rest of us who are do'ers. I think it is more challenging for senior women to lose the weight, and gain an enviable shape -- but it's not impossible. Adopt the primal rules -- sleep, exercise, reduce stress, EAT LESS overall and stop spending hours on these forums by starting your own strings of 'favourite primal pizza and home made bread'.

                        I'm just about bored of these forums because I'm tired of the same old, overweight women espousing their excuses on why they are not successful: I'm a binger; I love chocolate too much; I drink too much; I had 3 birthday parties this weekend and on and on the excuses go.

                        If you want to be thin, lean, fit and healthy -- just do it and get off these forums and go walk. It's frustrating and sad to see so many people think that their success lies in the 'group hug's on the forum.

                        Okay --- go ahead -- burn me now. I don't care --- just grabbing my bag to get out to my cross fit class. Carry on!
                        Congratulations Louisa655, You are the first person in my 3 years on MDA to ever make me cry. I am the OP of the Eat More Fat threads. You know nothing of my life and the challenges I have faced. For the record I work out as hard at my gym as you do in your cross fit box. I have been faithful to the tenets of the Primal life. I happen to have a binge eating disorder that has interfered with fully realizing my goals

                        I have never attacked anyone on these forums and was very upset that Choco was jumped on for imparting information based on his research and what has worked for him. A lot of what he says works for me too. I am doing the same thing in the EMF threads-sharing knowledge based on my research and n=1 experience. Maybe because I am still fat, no one should listen to me.

                        I know that I should not have responded to this post because I have now made myself a target and possibly brought unwanted attention to the EMF thread. Unfortunately, I was taught to stand up to bullies.
                        Primal since 9/24/2010
                        "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

                        Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Weight Loss Tools
                        MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
                          I have never attacked anyone on these forums and was very upset that Choco was jumped on for imparting information based on his research
                          Yal I dont know why anyone has to attack anyone. Information was shared. Take it or leave it, but no reason to get nasty about it.

                          We are all on our own journeys. Primal can mean different things to different people. I dont know why it seems to be lumped into categories, like those High Fat people or those High carb people. And I venture to say that a "high carb" primal is NOTHING compared to SAD. My carbs are all good carbs. Nothing processed, so I feel good about what I am eating.

                          I feel that if we can tweak or experiment in order to find our way, kudos to us. I know some ppl say, just eat. And yes I agree, but I also have specific goals and if I can tweak the macros a little one way or the other and reach those goals quicker, then why not.

                          Anyways, this thread was of interest to me, because it sounded like OP was having trouble losing weight & I got the impression due to the higher fat nature of Primal. There are plenty of threads that talk about High Fat, which isn't my program at the moment, so this thread appealed to me. It took a nose dive very quickly, not sure why and it looks like those comments have since been removed, but the information provided herein is great. If something else is working for a person then great, disregard it.
                          Last edited by gopintos; 02-14-2013, 11:27 AM.
                          65lbs gone and counting!!

                          Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                          • #73
                            Congratulations on your success so far, Pebbles67! And keep standing up to bullies!

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post

                              I have never attacked anyone on these forums and was very upset that Choco was jumped on for imparting information based on his research and what has worked for him. A lot of what he says works for me too.
                              Pebbles: Thanks for saying this I felt the same way. And congrats on all that you have done. You have come a long ways........

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Terry H View Post
                                Great post Chocotaco. It'll be more fun if Paleobird wd. drop by this thread. I can just imagine thepotential calorie-burning then.
                                I actually totally agree with Chaco about calories. I just find it hilarious that he acts like he invented calorie counting when he fought me tooth and nail about it on my calorie counting thread back in the day. But I'm glad he figured it out.

                                Also no argument that dropping the excess fat can help keep the calories down. It worked for me. (Also on the calorie counting threads).

                                I think lifting weights is wonderful exercise and that senior lifting lady is awesome.

                                But, of course, I'm with cori that the carb/fat levels are an individual thing and that HFLC does serve a medicinal purpose to someone trying to get their hunger signaling mechanism sorted out and functioning right.

                                And Louisa, way to be a douche, girl. I post on the EMF thread. I have lost all 65lbs that I needed to and climb mountains. Does that make me enough of a "do'er" for you?

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