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Why does cheese halt weight loss/make one gain but Whey and yogurt do not?

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  • #46
    Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
    Protein, especially Whey is the insulinogenic part in milk to my knowlegde, lactose like fructose doesent spike insulin at all...
    Caseins are insulinogenic too:

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    • #47
      3/4 stick = 600 calories, BUT I have found the butter to be much more filling / appetite-suppressing than eggs.
      I can eat 6 eggs at a time, but they WILL NOT fill me up or cut my hunger like the butter will.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Wulf View Post
        3/4 stick = 600 calories, BUT I have found the butter to be much more filling / appetite-suppressing than eggs.
        I can eat 6 eggs at a time, but they WILL NOT fill me up or cut my hunger like the butter will.
        Yes, I miscalculated assuming butter was pure fat, but anyway 600 calories in 3/4 stick of butter or the same as 8 large eggs, that's still a lot of food!
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        • #49
          I love eggs a lot, but I am never hungry in the mornings so I don't like to actually eat when I get up. The butter coffee gets calories in without seeming like eating, and it's just my experience that it is much more long-term filling than eggs. For the sake of cost and convenience, I would not do more than 1/2 stick (400 calories), so that one pack of butter gives 8 servings and it's not calorie overkill either. Honestly I don't have butter coffee very often, as I haven't been having problems with late-day cravings recently, as long as I don't have any restaurant food and just bring my own food to work.

          On topic: I love cheese, and I still eat that along with cream cheese and sour cream, but I don't drink milk. I started eating along the Atkins lines before I got more into Paleo, and those things align with lower carbs. I tried to look for a not-non-fat greek yogurt at the store yesterday and it seems to not exist. And almost all the yogurts have huge amounts of sugar, except the "carb master" which I don't trust because I think it's just a bunch of weird fillers. The one whole-fat yogurt is also full of sugar. The greek yogurt I usually get for my husband is 0g fat, which I don't like, so I don't eat it myself. I feel that I'm getting in line with Paleo in that, if it doesn't have fat, it doesn't qualify as real food. Good news is, the chain grocery store finally has a sale on Kefir but it too is fruit flavored and full of sugar.... It's a mine field out there.
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          • #50
            Since Greek yogurt is a fad these days I stay away from it. I get goat or sheep yogurt or I get Wallaby yogurt. Two ingredients: milk and culture.

            As for cheese, it's best with wine, which only makes it even more fattening. (goes to get another piece of cheese and another glass of wine.)
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            • #51
              I often eat 1-2 ounces of high quality cheese as part of my lunch plate (usually about 4 oz of lean deli meat, apple slices, fresh berries, some veggie sticks, maybe a few almonds). I mostly use either cheese or avocado as my fat source for the meal. And I haven't noticed any adverse effect on my weight management. However, I try to always keep my weight between 145 and 150. I don't worry if it varies as long as it stays within that range. But if it starts creeping up over 150, all dairy gets the axe for a while, as well as alcohol.

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              Last edited by Grokkette; 05-15-2013, 02:32 AM.

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              • #52
                Does cheese pack a hefty insulin spike?

                I absolutely can't eat it without fattening up, and it has nothing to do with the calories.

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