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  • Question...
    Net carbs or a carb is a carb is a carb?
    Which one do I count? TIA!
    37 yof
    5'9

    Macros:
    70% fat
    20% protein
    10% net carbs
    1300-1500 calories

    SW:180ish
    CW:171
    GW:155

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    • I believe the answer is carb is a carb is a carb.
      Primal since March 5, 2012
      SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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      • Some people work with net carbs, I personally count a carb as a carb.
        Karin


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        • I use "a is a carb" because it keeps me honest.
          Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, steak in one hand, chocolate in the other, yelling "Holy F***, What a Ride!"
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          • I wondered that myself, but decided to count a carb as a carb. This way, I for sure won't go over my limit.

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            • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
              I believe the answer is carb is a carb is a carb.
              Originally posted by athomeontherange View Post
              Some people work with net carbs, I personally count a carb as a carb.
              Originally posted by naiadknight View Post
              I use "a is a carb" because it keeps me honest.
              Originally posted by lala70 View Post
              I wondered that myself, but decided to count a carb as a carb. This way, I for sure won't go over my limit.
              Thanks for the replys!
              37 yof
              5'9

              Macros:
              70% fat
              20% protein
              10% net carbs
              1300-1500 calories

              SW:180ish
              CW:171
              GW:155

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              • Originally posted by ez2cy View Post
                Don't like that it does not calculate strength training calories burnt but I'll live with it.
                Just remembered this comment and realized I forgot to respond to it... if you click on "add exercise" under Cardio, you can search for "Strength training" and it'll allow you some calories for that workout.

                It'll appear as "Strength training (weight lifting, weight training)"
                Primal since March 5, 2012
                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
                  So, using this goal weight, that would be 88.5 kg

                  1/2 of that is 44 gm carbs.
                  1.1x that would be approximately 94 gm protein.
                  2x protein would be 187 gm fat.

                  44 gm carbs * 4 calories per carb = 176 calories from carbs
                  94 * 4 = 376 calories from protein
                  187 * 9 = 1683 calories from fat

                  Add those up: 2235 is what you should shoot for for calories to reach 195 lbs.

                  Macros will equal:

                  Carbs: 44 gm, 7.9%
                  Protein: 94 gm, 16.8%
                  Fat: 187 gm, 75.3%
                  Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
                  Paula, since he used the BMR calculation to determine his calorie goal, and I used the HSIS method, which is right for him? We got different calories goals.
                  Thank you Jenn so much. I greatly appreciate it.

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                  • I do net carbs. I don't understand counting fiber against your ketosis? It's either not absorbed or turned into fatty acids... I would think counting fiber carbs would encourage eating refined carbs only like sugar. I wouldn't want to eat an avacado or veggies if I had to count fiber as sugar!

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                    • Originally posted by Tee View Post
                      Thanks Pebbles. Just so I'm correct, 70% from fat, 25% from protein and 5% from carbs?
                      TEE and Jenn Jenn, I just answered his question on the calorie goal he chose. Tee, if you can work your way down to the calories that Jenn set up for you based on the HSIS formula, you will likely lose weight faster. 70/25/5 is a good place to start no matter what calories you are going for.
                      Primal since 9/24/2010
                      "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                      • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
                        Paula, can you put this in the first thread for ease of locating later? Thanks.
                        That Harris benedict multipliers can be found at the BMR link in the first post, but I will post them anyway.
                        Primal since 9/24/2010
                        "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

                        Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Weight Loss Tools
                        MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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                        • Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
                          TEE and Jenn Jenn, I just answered his question on the calorie goal he chose.
                          I knew that and don't fault you for doing so... just wondering which equation we should truly be using. I'm sure it's confusing as heck to the newbies to have two possible equations floating around for determining our macros.

                          Personally, I like the HarrisBenedict version b/c it allows me to eat more.
                          Primal since March 5, 2012
                          SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                          • Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
                            That Harris benedict multipliers can be found at the BMR link in the first post, but I will post them anyway.
                            My bad... didn't know this as I didn't click on the link.
                            Primal since March 5, 2012
                            SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                            • Alright, My Fitness Pal might have been a good idea if I'm actually going to make this happen... because it's way harder than I thought. I normally really like eating fat, but I'm feeling a little nauseated now at the thought of it.

                              I'm starting to have doubts about how long I can keep this up, but I'll see if I can stick with it for a little while longer before messing with the ratios. Right now it seems like I can only eat two really small meals before going over on carbs or protein. I thought I'd be alright with things like fatty meat, but apparently I can't even eat two chicken thighs in a day without exceeding my protein limit?

                              If anyone would like to friend me on My Fitness Pal, my username is Kotato there too (I know some of you have posted your usernames, but I had a hard time sifting through this thread to find them). Maybe seeing all of your meal will give me some ideas of how to make this work.
                              23, F, 5'5" and ~140lbs
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                              • Ok...accepted you as my friend.....r u my freind? Can we be like BFF? Welcome to my neighborhood (done in a terrible Mr. Rogers impersonation)
                                55 yr old male


                                07/01/2013

                                Weight; 199
                                Chest; 41.5
                                Waist; 42
                                Hips; 40
                                Thigh; 22.5
                                Calf; 15
                                Bicep: 13
                                Forearm; 11.5
                                Neck; 17

                                07/20/2013

                                Weight; 200
                                Chest; 42
                                Waist; 42.5
                                Hips; 39
                                Thigh; 23
                                Calf; 15
                                Bicep: 13
                                Forearm; 11.5
                                Neck; 16

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