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  • Jenn, 66% fat is perfectly acceptable for nk...but buttered bouillon is awesome.
    Primal since 9/24/2010
    "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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    • The wagon burst into flames so I had to jump off before being incinerated.

      That said, it's only once a week and I'm finding I just like a couple of cans
      Coors Light and that's it.

      WAY better than a whole bottle of wine.....snort.

      And way, WAY better than my early 20's which was a BOTTLE
      of Bacardi a night.... sometimes it would even be Bacardi 151.

      Oh my liver must have hated me.....

      Good for you for not letting your husband buy any more rum.

      I hope he's keeping up his end of the bargain.

      MY husband would buy it anyway, and then give me reasons as
      to why we need to cocktail. And anything goes with him:

      1.) It's Raining
      2.) There are dust particles falling
      3.) It's end of quarter
      4.) I got a big bonus check
      5.) The cat needs brushing
      6.) I got home an hour early
      7.) The sky is blue
      8.) We are breathing

      He is a very, very EVIL MAN.

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      • Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
        Jenn, 66% fat is perfectly acceptable for nk...but buttered bouillon is awesome.
        Glad to hear that ^ cuz I have a hard time getting in more fat than that too. In fact I prefer to not go over 70% cuz I don't feel very good if I do. Maybe thats too much for me since I don't have a gall bladder.
        1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
        2. Eat to heal
        3. Move to live
        4. Embrace today
        5. Live with intention
        6. Respect my body
        7. Cultivate joy
        8. Find my passion
        9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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        • I reached 85% for about a week, but I was drinking 2 mega BPCs and felt yucky. I'm a pretty stable 75% right now and eating my calories for the most part.
          Primal since 9/24/2010
          "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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          • Originally posted by Salina13 View Post
            We looked for bouillon last night at the two stores we have around us in the florida keys and couldn't find anything not loaded with ingredients I couldn't pronounce
            Would chicken broth work instead?
            Actually slept better last night and don't feel too bad this morning. Hopefully today will be a better day!
            Salina13 - I'm in the Keys (totally weird and small world). Where are you? I might be able to help. Are you in the lower keys, middle keys or upper keys?

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            • Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
              I can't see your diary because I'm not on MFP, but one of the easiest ways to increase fat is to eat an ounce of macadamia nuts.
              I hadn't even thought about those! I have a pound in my pantry that I plan to use to make Fat Bread for the family (ah hell, and myself. Wouldn't mind a nice grilled cheese sandwich. ). I'll add a few and see what that does to my numbers. I remember reading in the Fat Fast cookbook that they're 83% fat or something around there.


              Originally posted by InSearchOfAbs View Post
              Jenn, I've been doing the bouillon sometimes with a tablespoon of butter in it.

              Gets the fat up, keeps you fuller longer, and by God, it's freaking tasty as all get out.

              Julie
              That's already on the menu and tracked...
              Primal since March 5, 2012
              SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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              • The macadamias bring me up to 70/20/10 perfectly. Thanks for the suggestion!!
                Primal since March 5, 2012
                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                • Just popping to say you might want to check this out:

                  Ketogenic Ratio and Weight Loss Sweet Geek

                  It explains the Ketogenic Ratio ie the ratio of foods that raise ketones vs. the foods that lower ketones, i.e. produce glucose.

                  PS: she also has a neat protein calculator based on V&P:

                  Protein Calculator - SweetGeek

                  And if you really have time on your hands here is an alternative to the keto calculator:

                  Calculate Your Ideal Nutrient Intake for Weight Loss or Maintenance

                  NB: the last link is designed for all diets, NOT NK specific so the macros will be out slightly but I like it because it does force a minimum calorie intake

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                  • mks8500 We are in Marathon on the grassy key but heading out tomorrow morning for north florida.
                    We both felt alot better today and I used the organic chicken broth we found and heated it with some ghee butter in the middle of the afternoon when we were both starting to feel hungry. Then we went kayaking for a couple of hours and neither of us had any energy issues.
                    So I think we're past the carb flu part (knock on wood).

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                    • Hi I have been on NK for a month now and following you guys this whole time. I have been low carb paleo since jan 2011 so this not a new concept to me. I have been wondering if there would be any benefit to a carb refeed day to reset your metabolism? Any advice on this would be great!

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                      • A carb refeed to me just means that I have lost days in ketosis and have to start all over again. Of course, I tend to binge a few times a month anyway so there is my carb refeed. Does it help weightloss? Not for me. It usually takes a week for me to lose the bloat weight.
                        Primal since 9/24/2010
                        "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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                        • Welcome Georgia! I'm up in the air about the refeed thing. That may be because I really haven't read up on it--just picking things out of various threads I've read.

                          Carbs still trigger overeating of them for me, so I'd have to be very careful about which ones--they definitely couldn't be sweet (as in fruit or even sweet potatoes, etc.). Once I'm well on my way with this I may try a potatoe or two every few weeks. I don't now. Eventually, once I've lost most of the weight I want to lose, I will definitely add back things like potatoes as a more frequent treat (I think, lol).
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                          • Just popping in to say hi, yesterday went okay-ish. My cals were low, too low (wasn't hungry), but I did a great work out of running a couple miles and doing P90X Shoulders & Arms workout followed P90X Abs workout. Mr carbs we're a little to high and fat was 66%, if I remember correctly. I also finally went and purchased a decent scale, so I can actually tell if I'm losing weight, yes!

                            My biggest challenge right now is that I have a trip every week for the next three weeks. This weeks is short and unexpected, but it will be 18+ hours on the road, then we have spring break and a vacation planned through Thursday of next week, then the following week I fly out of state to work a few insanely long days. Agh!!!

                            I know the first two, I'll be able to eat primal for sure, I've masted that for the most part, or as much possible when eating out. But the third trip is the really tough one, I make this trip every month and the only way I can survive it is by taking protein bars because I don't have time to even eat. Most days I'm lucky to get a bathroom break in a 12-14 hour span, it's truly crazy. The good news is I never go over on calories, lol!

                            So all that to say, I'm going to do what I can, when I'm home, but I'm not going to go to crazy until these three trips are over. I'm not sure there's anything else I can do but I'm certainly open to suggestions if you have them. I'm trying to think of it as, it's life and I have to adapt when these situations come up. The good news is I will manage my cals and types of foods I eat, the bad news is that my macros won't be in line the way I want for a few weeks.

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                            • Originally posted by unloading30 View Post
                              I know the first two, I'll be able to eat primal for sure, I've masted that for the most part, or as much possible when eating out. But the third trip is the really tough one, I make this trip every month and the only way I can survive it is by taking protein bars because I don't have time to even eat. Most days I'm lucky to get a bathroom break in a 12-14 hour span, it's truly crazy. The good news is I never go over on calories, lol!
                              A big bag of pork rinds and a jar of macadamia nuts.

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                              • Originally posted by unloading30 View Post
                                My biggest challenge right now is that I have a trip every week for the next three weeks. This weeks is short and unexpected, but it will be 18+ hours on the road, then we have spring break and a vacation planned through Thursday of next week, then the following week I fly out of state to work a few insanely long days. Agh!!!

                                I know the first two, I'll be able to eat primal for sure, I've masted that for the most part, or as much possible when eating out. But the third trip is the really tough one, I make this trip every month and the only way I can survive it is by taking protein bars because I don't have time to even eat. Most days I'm lucky to get a bathroom break in a 12-14 hour span, it's truly crazy. The good news is I never go over on calories, lol!
                                Boiled eggs!!! You can eat the protein and fat, just the protein (white) or just the fat (yolk).
                                Primal since March 5, 2012
                                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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