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  • Originally posted by demuralist View Post
    Regarding the shoes and barefooting...my doc wanted me in padded shoes, not necessarily arch supports, my home had all tile and wood floors. AFTER it was healed he wanted me barefooting mostly in sand (I lived in Florida at the time-so the prescription was to do a lot of beach walking).

    My DH now likely has too much scar tissue for surgery, which he wouldn't submit to anyway.

    To my doc, the thing was that while you sleep (or rest) you are healing, you need to make sure your foot is at a 90 degree angle to the leg, or smaller while you are doing either, because if you step down on it after it has started to heal in a shortened position (greater than 90 degrees) you re-rip the fascia and create a bit of scar tissue. The less often you do this the better. Anything you can do to reduce or eliminate inflammation is also a good thing.
    I'm in Florida now and the tile floors that you mention are exactly what I have. I have the 5 finger shoes and try to wear them but hadn't worn them in a while. I think I'll give it a few days rest and see how things go. I feel like I'm doing everything I can to keep the inflammation down with this diet so that's good.

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    • Originally posted by martinus View Post
      You can change the carb count in the calculator, just enter your desired amount of grams in point 5. I think 25g is already quite low, you are certainly in ketosis if you stay that low and don't overdo it with protein.
      Thanks I've just realised & updated my original post. I typically stick to below 10g but I think the protein number is the most important (assuming you already low carb)

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      • Originally posted by mks8500 View Post
        I'm in Florida now and the tile floors that you mention are exactly what I have. I have the 5 finger shoes and try to wear them but hadn't worn them in a while. I think I'll give it a few days rest and see how things go. I feel like I'm doing everything I can to keep the inflammation down with this diet so that's good.
        I got a pair of slippers with memory foam bottoms to wear around the house. That is no support but actually pads against the tile floor, probably acts a little like sand when you walk on them. I really think the key is that anytime you stop moving whether to sit or sleep that your feet are in at least that 90 degree angle. Yep, I bet the diet helps quite a bit regarding the inflammation!
        Chris
        "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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        My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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        • Originally posted by geostump View Post
          For shits and giggles, I decided to break out the measuring tape and do some measurements. Neck=16", Bust=39"(down 3"), Waist=41"(down 5"), Hips 46"(down 5") Thigh=23"(down 1"), Calf=15.5"(down 1.5").
          Yay!!!!

          Originally posted by mks8500 View Post
          Has anyone ever had plantar fasciitis? I got THAT about the same time I caught my cold and it's KILLER. Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions since it makes my runs really difficult. I've done ice, rubbed it on a golf ball and tennis ball, night splint and stretches. I have a triathlon in less than 2 weeks and have a feeling I'll just be after the "finish" rather than improving any times.
          Originally posted by demuralist View Post
          My experience with plantar faciitis was that it took everything you said plus never walking barefoot (especially on hard surfaces) and letting it rest.
          Originally posted by demuralist View Post
          Regarding the shoes and barefooting...my doc wanted me in padded shoes, not necessarily arch supports, my home had all tile and wood floors. AFTER it was healed he wanted me barefooting mostly in sand (I lived in Florida at the time-so the prescription was to do a lot of beach walking)....

          To my doc, the thing was that while you sleep (or rest) you are healing, you need to make sure your foot is at a 90 degree angle to the leg, or smaller while you are doing either, because if you step down on it after it has started to heal in a shortened position (greater than 90 degrees) you re-rip the fascia and create a bit of scar tissue. The less often you do this the better. Anything you can do to reduce or eliminate inflammation is also a good thing.
          Originally posted by demuralist View Post
          I got a pair of slippers with memory foam bottoms to wear around the house. That is no support but actually pads against the tile floor, probably acts a little like sand when you walk on them. I really think the key is that anytime you stop moving whether to sit or sleep that your feet are in at least that 90 degree angle. Yep, I bet the diet helps quite a bit regarding the inflammation!
          Yes. I had plantar faciitis in both feet at the same time. I got cortisone shots in both (horriblely painful by-the-way), which didn't help. My doctor said mostly the same as Demuralist's did. He wanted me to rest as much as possible for a couple of weeks with my feet up, ice, take an anti-inflamatory, NO walking around the house barefoot, and stretching the back of the heel (i.e., the runner's strecth where you put your hands against a wall with feet a few feet out so the back of the heel stretches). He suggested Birkenstocks for around the house and I got custom orthotics, which seemed to help a lot in my case. After it was healed I could walk around barefoot...I think once it is inflamed, the treatment is different than just maintaining.
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          • Originally posted by 252dlp View Post
            Yes. I had plantar faciitis in both feet at the same time. I got cortisone shots in both (horriblely painful by-the-way), which didn't help. My doctor said mostly the same as Demuralist's did. He wanted me to rest as much as possible for a couple of weeks with my feet up, ice, take an anti-inflamatory, NO walking around the house barefoot, and stretching the back of the heel (i.e., the runner's strecth where you put your hands against a wall with feet a few feet out so the back of the heel stretches). He suggested Birkenstocks for around the house and I got custom orthotics, which seemed to help a lot in my case. After it was healed I could walk around barefoot...I think once it is inflamed, the treatment is different than just maintaining.
            oh, I should mention that I had it 16 years ago, and not since, and I always go barefoot now.
            Chris
            "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
            Unknown

            My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

            My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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            • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
              Love the keto calculator and love that it uses MFP as it's preferred calorie tracker. I just wish I could adjust MFP to 7% carbs...


              The keto calculator tells me November 2013. Love it. If I wanted to get to 20% body fat, I'd need to keep going til the end of January. Not sure where I'll be weight wise come 25% body fat, so we'll aim for that and work down from there.

              The August date is putting me at 15.5% body fat. I'll be a fracking beast at that percentage.
              Georgette

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              • Okay, no personal experience, but I just read the 'Alternate Day Diet' by Johnson. You know how those diet books are, there's alway a range of personal anecdotes. Well, one concerned plantar faciitis. The diet is supposed to reduce inflammation, due to action by SIRT1, activated by the fasting days. He experimented with it on asthmatics(How do you spell that? It looks funny.) and had good success. A friend of his had plantar faciitis, and tried the diet, found relief in two weeks or so. I'm not saying try it, but you might want to read the book, or see if you can find any other research about it, to consider.

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                • I loved the Keto Calculator until it told me I would not reach goal for over a year.

                  The thing seems to have "calorie fear" built in. it didn't like that I wanted to eat 85% fat and around 2000 cals

                  EDIT: If I put in Moderate exercise, it says I hit goal (25% fat) on 11/29/13. That is slightly better.
                  Primal since 9/24/2010
                  "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

                  Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Weight Loss Tools
                  MFP username: MDAPebbles67

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                  • ah, but it has me hitting my goal in over 2 years. Of course would be better than the last 2 years so I shouldn't complain!
                    Chris
                    "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                    Unknown

                    My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                    My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                    • Originally posted by Sabine View Post
                      Okay, no personal experience, but I just read the 'Alternate Day Diet' by Johnson. You know how those diet books are, there's alway a range of personal anecdotes. Well, one concerned plantar faciitis. The diet is supposed to reduce inflammation, due to action by SIRT1, activated by the fasting days. He experimented with it on asthmatics(How do you spell that? It looks funny.) and had good success. A friend of his had plantar faciitis, and tried the diet, found relief in two weeks or so. I'm not saying try it, but you might want to read the book, or see if you can find any other research about it, to consider.
                      I'll look it up for sure. I'm wearing the 5 fingers around the house now and I swear I'd love to hate these shoes because they're so ugly but it doesn't hurt as badly as it did earlier today. I appreciate all the comments. I have soooo much sympathy for anyone that's ever experienced this. Yikes!!

                      Megan

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                      • Originally posted by Ddraig Goch View Post
                        Thanks I've just realised & updated my original post. I typically stick to below 10g but I think the protein number is the most important (assuming you already low carb)
                        Thanks for finding that calculator. That is the most all on one page and accurate tool for this I have seen.

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                        • I have had plantar fasciitis a few times. Stretching my calf before bed and when I woke up was critical also I was either barefoot or wear Birkenstocks. Both times it went away once I consistently stretched before bed. Reducing inflammation with diet probably didn't hurt either, I've learned that various things lead to inflammation for me including things like cashews, even a smidge of sugar etc...

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                          • Originally posted by honeybuns View Post
                            I really don't think height has anything to do with how your pants fit or what size you wear. Just looking at the cross sampling of everyone here, it is clear that we are all different and there really isn't a "one-size-fits-all". When I was at my most physically fit, all muscle, I could not get below 160. We're talking 130-pound-hay-bale-stacking muscles. Before my life was that physically active I held steady at 135. Same pant size. Contrary to what CW would have us believe, the number on the scale isn't the be-all-end-all. I'm working hard at being comfortable in my own skin, regardless of weight, rather than stressing about the number on the scale not being low enough.

                            Believe in yourself
                            Like who you are
                            Never say quit
                            Positive mental attitude
                            I think you're absolutely spot on there. Body composition/frame size dictates so much of what the scales say. Just looking at our body in the mirror will tell us if there's more fat to go. It's too easy to go nuts being guided only by the scales!

                            Geostump, those results are awesome.

                            And here's an interesting new twist. Last year a Brit doctor did some extensive research into the impact of IF on health. The doco is called Eat, Fast, Live Longer, and it's screening in the US on PBS April 3. There's a website about it too, at:

                            The Fast Diet the secret of intermittent fasting: lose weight, stay healthy, live longer

                            Anyhow, the whole thing is really interesting, especially tying in to everything MS has to say about the benefits of IF here at MDA. In a nutshell, the program is: eat normally 5 a days a week, fast 2 non-consecutive days eg Mon and Thurs. On the fast days women stick to 500 calories and men 600. In the doco there's lots of great official medical/scientific info and test results. If you happen to hear a lot of scaremongering about IF putting your body into starvation mode, being dangerous etc, roll your eyes. The idea that the human machine is going to implode after 1 day of reduced calories is such nonsense I can't believe any self-respecting so called scientist would even suggest it.

                            I'm officially giving the program a go, but instead of going hog wild on the 'feed' days, I'll be sticking to regular primal eating, with my 'treat' foods consisting of some sweet potato and some berries with double cream. Non-primal folk have enjoyed huge success even eating non-primal carby stuff, but I don't want to get back on that roller coaster. And I'll report on what happens with me. I'm adding in an extra fasting day (Mon/Wed/Fri fasting, the other days regular eating) because I want to accelerate the fat loss. I'm also working out 6 days a week, 3 days non-chronic cardio, 3 days ncc with some weights as well.

                            For the record, I've dropped nearly 6 lbs since March 1st. I'll be very interested to see where I'm up to at month's end.
                            Last edited by OzK; 03-12-2013, 09:02 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by OzK View Post
                              And here's an interesting new twist. Last year a Brit doctor did some extensive research into the impact of IF on health. The doco is called Eat, Fast, Live Longer, and it's screening in the US on PBS April 3. There's a website about it too, at:

                              The Fast Diet the secret of intermittent fasting: lose weight, stay healthy, live longer
                              I saw this program when it first came out. Michael Mosley is a well-respected Dr/journalist who is always trying out the latest nutrition craze to see if it works. He is the UK’s human guinea pig. (BTW he first introduced the UK to HIT exercising) He started his ‘2 day diet’ by exploring weekly fasting but decided it was too brutal and ended up doing 2 days of lo cal over a week. Lots of people have had good results with it over here.

                              It was what got me looking into IF. I was going to try his diet but then realised the health benefits of daily IF are greater & found NK so never actually bought the book.

                              Well done on your loss. It will be interesting to see how you get on.

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                              • Originally posted by Ddraig Goch View Post
                                I saw this program when it first came out. Michael Mosley is a well-respected Dr/journalist who is always trying out the latest nutrition craze to see if it works. He is the UK’s human guinea pig. (BTW he first introduced the UK to HIT exercising) He started his ‘2 day diet’ by exploring weekly fasting but decided it was too brutal and ended up doing 2 days of lo cal over a week. Lots of people have had good results with it over here.

                                It was what got me looking into IF. I was going to try his diet but then realised the health benefits of daily IF are greater & found NK so never actually bought the book.

                                Well done on your loss. It will be interesting to see how you get on.

                                Well, he's a game one! I'd never heard of him before this. That's interesting about the HIT stuff. Clearly he's a man more interested in truth than protecting turf. I bought the book on spec a few days ago, then watched the doco that he did. What I like about the process is that you can easily incorporate low carb primal (which is a perfect health match for me) with the health benefits of IF, while not having to severely restrict calories or deny yourself a treat now and then or be too picky in difficult social situations. So for me, it looks like a flexible, doable, long term proposition. Which I'm not entirely sure strict NK is. Today's been my first fast day, and while not entirely terrible it is a bit empty. I'm hungry, but I understand once the body adjusts, the strong hunger fades. Brad Pilon 's been talking about this for a while with his Eat, Stop, Eat philosophy, but he advocates total fasting. This one gives you a bit of food, so it's more widely user friendly.

                                Of course there's much hysteria from the CW crowd - especially the ones who stand to lose a lot of diet industry money should this WOE take off. *g*

                                Even so, following this, if you make wise feed day choices, it is possible to remain in NK, at least lightly. And that's all to the good.

                                And thanks! I've got a long way to go, but at last I'm starting to feel I can reach the goal, after many years of struggle.

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