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  • Originally posted by OzK View Post
    Yeah, I just got a copy of the updated original version. But I'm thinking, given the whole problem with carbs, that increasing protein intake first might not make more sense. To get to goal my daily intake is 60 grams, which isn't a whole lot. So bumping that by 20 gm increments until a comfortable amount is reached might decrease the danger of rebound carb stuffing, d' you think?

    I think that would be a good way to go. I wouldn't go over 1.5x weight in kg. unless you are a really heavy exerciser. I'm beginning to think too much protein can cause cravings much like carbs. For carbs I would ultimately stay under the 150 maintenance level. If you have had metabolic syndrome, I would stay under 100 grams. I guess it depends on why you stuff carbs. If it is mostly a nutritional problem, then once that is fixed, you shouldn't have a problem.

    I will be eating this way for life, but hope to be able to eat off plan on special occasions and get right back to it.
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    • Originally posted by OzK View Post
      Heh. Not when you do the baking yourself ...
      Therein lies the problem...demuralist is a wonderful baker. Thank God she lives hours away from me.
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      • Yep, pretty darn good baker. Luckily I don't do it because I love it, I do it to make the people I love happy (special cakes for birthdays and events), so I don't miss doing it. BFF's birthday is coming up the first week of March, and I make her Tres Leche which is her favorite, but it is a take home and she eats it for breakfast, every day till it is gone, won't let anyone else in on it! She is hilarious, and skinny as a rail (literally). My husband tells everyone he has lot hundreds of pounds since we have been married, in 10 pound increments (he gains ten then loses it then gains then loses, but he is very fit).
        Chris
        "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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        My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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        • Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
          You know what? I recommend Protein Power to people who don't think they can handle Primal / Paleo. It is a really good program that works for people who don't have totally screwed up metabolisms.
          Perhaps then I should read it before sending it on just for education purposes

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          • Originally posted by Ddraig Goch View Post
            Perhaps then I should read it before sending it on just for education purposes
            Definitely. I read alot of books that are not strictly Paleo/Primal, just to add to my bank of knowledge. I would also recommend "The Schwarzbein Principle II", a book that is especially good for women who want to add carbs for optimal hormonal response.
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            • My birthday is next week as well and my oldest daughter and I are going to the grand opening of a new Whole Foods and checking out all the samples from different vendors to celebrate. We plan on going to the casino on the 9th, so I may have a drink to celebrate as well. Nothing too major.
              Georgette

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              • Originally posted by geostump View Post
                My birthday is next week as well and my oldest daughter and I are going to the grand opening of a new Whole Foods and checking out all the samples from different vendors to celebrate. We plan on going to the casino on the 9th, so I may have a drink to celebrate as well. Nothing too major.
                Happy birthday next week to you both Have fun at the casino.

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                • Well, I'm glad this is a process because I've definitely got quite a way to go, lol. I'm holding onto that weight gain after that little loss. I'm back up where I started and it's been holding for three days now. I'm going to copy my journal post here:

                  Well, I'm obviously doing something wrong. I'm feeling pretty good, which is the most important thing, but my energy hasn't increased much and I'm definitely NOT losing weight. I still think I'm overeating, but the appetite suppression hasn't kicked in yet and I'm feeling hungry all the time. Not exactly sure what to tweak yet, but I'll keep working on it.

                  Today looks like this:

                  1: Coffee with butter and a little coconut milk (lite)
                  2: Ground beef, 1/2 avocado; iced coffee (with lite coconut milk) (lite is only because that's what I had---I have a BUNCH of
                  cans that I bought before "going primal")

                  To come at work:

                  3: Chicken breast with a little artichoke pesto; broccoli florets with butter

                  Later at home:

                  4: Probably a "shake" like yesterday. That was VERY good. Ended up using butter and flax meal.

                  I may snack at work...brought a can of tuna in olive oil that I can eat if needed. I'm already feeling slightly hungry and I just ate about 40 minutes ago (beef/avocado). {{Sigh}}

                  So if I eat everything planned (but not the tuna) my totals will look like this:

                  80 g protein (19%)
                  54 g carbs (12%)
                  132 g fat (69%)

                  1,683 calories
                  Last edited by 252dlp; 02-28-2013, 09:54 AM.
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                  • 252dlp, your breakfast seems a little "lite" to me, maybe do the shake in the morning?

                    I do a whole avocado with bacon and mayo for lunch, super yummy, not filling but it 'holds' me well, I also do a cup of tea with a mix of coconut milk and HWC with this.

                    Instead of chicken breast go with the thighs, juicier, fattier, more filling.

                    Where are your carbs coming from?
                    Chris
                    "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                    My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                    My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                    • just saw this article and think it is a really good one...http://jonnybowdenblog.com/think-about-weight-loss/
                      Chris
                      "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                      Unknown

                      My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                      My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                      • Originally posted by demuralist View Post
                        just saw this article and think it is a really good one...http://jonnybowdenblog.com/think-about-weight-loss/
                        Guess I should be a guy then... lol I want a finality about things so I can move on to a new hobby...

                        Great point made by the blogger though. it really should be about the process, not always about reaching the final goal. If I were to all of a sudden be at goal and have the body of my dreams - I'm not sure what I'd do next... probably go for a run.
                        Primal since March 5, 2012
                        SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                        • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
                          probably go for a run.
                          And now I want to go for a run... lol
                          Primal since March 5, 2012
                          SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                          • So I never thought I was much of an emotional eater but I recently had a falling out with my closest friend and we are no longer friends and yesterday it hit me that it seems like I may have lost some other friends as a result. I am really sad over it and I find I am wanting to eat even though I am not hungry. I came back from my trip 4.6 pounds lighter. I had finally reached my first small goal weight which was emotionally significant and was almost half way to my next small goal. From now on they are in 10 pound increments. This morning I had gained back 4.4 pounds and so far I have eaten my breakfast and just ate a handful of macadamia nuts and two squares of chocolate. My stomach hurts, my heart is sad and I am sitting here thinking I want to raid the cabinet. Really? Why? It's not going to help, it's not going to fix the friendship. I am tired of crying about it and now I feel like crap.

                            I just needed to share how I am feeling with someone as I am feeling really sad and lonely right now. I'm in my forties and I feel like I am in middle school. Great adolescence all over again.

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                            • Originally posted by Primal123 View Post
                              So I never thought I was much of an emotional eater but I recently had a falling out with my closest friend and we are no longer friends and yesterday it hit me that it seems like I may have lost some other friends as a result. I am really sad over it and I find I am wanting to eat even though I am not hungry. I came back from my trip 4.6 pounds lighter. I had finally reached my first small goal weight which was emotionally significant and was almost half way to my next small goal. From now on they are in 10 pound increments. This morning I had gained back 4.4 pounds and so far I have eaten my breakfast and just ate a handful of macadamia nuts and two squares of chocolate. My stomach hurts, my heart is sad and I am sitting here thinking I want to raid the cabinet. Really? Why? It's not going to help, it's not going to fix the friendship. I am tired of crying about it and now I feel like crap.

                              I just needed to share how I am feeling with someone as I am feeling really sad and lonely right now. I'm in my forties and I feel like I am in middle school. Great adolescence all over again.
                              I know how rough it can be to lose a friend. I've recently lost a couple too. I know how rough it is and how horrible it makes us feel. I sympathize. Can you go for a walk when those feelings hit? Sometimes it helps to change the scenery a bit.
                              Primal since March 5, 2012
                              SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                              • Originally posted by demuralist View Post
                                Where are your carbs coming from?
                                From the "shake". I make my "shake" with a frozen banana, egg white protein powder, coconut milk, unsweetened cocoa powder, 1 or 2 drops of stevia liquid, and sometimes 1 T of nuts...usually almonds, but yesterday and today was figuring on Macadamias. So, I think I'll modify that today and make it without the banana and nuts, and use only half the protein powder (that's also high). I'll add more fat...yesterday I used butter...may do that or may add some almond butter.

                                I haven't been having the "shakes" very often because it's been cold. But the last few days the weather here has been warm so I started having one in the evening.

                                I normall prefer chicken wings, leg and thighs, but I've been buying a whole roasted chicken once a week, and this is the leftover, lol. I think I'll go back to what I used to do years ago and just buy the parts I like and roast them myself.

                                This is why it's good to post things...I KNOW what's wrong, but until someone points it out to me, sometimes I ignore it. {{sign}}

                                Originally posted by demuralist View Post
                                just saw this article and think it is a really good one...http://jonnybowdenblog.com/think-about-weight-loss/
                                Very cool!

                                Originally posted by Primal123 View Post
                                I just needed to share how I am feeling with someone as I am feeling really sad and lonely right now. I'm in my forties and I feel like I am in middle school. Great adolescence all over again.
                                Aw, I'm so sorry. I've lost a couple of friends too and it's definitely hard. I'm a huge emotional/stress eater, so I understand how hard it is. I'm also the type of person who does too much thinking and I tend to rethink and rethink and rethink these situations.
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